Originally posted by yaadaveyaaRemember Though. This is not the same sentry we have seen in the past.
see this is where i was having trouble again i know we have to use on panel feats only but can rogue really use all of hulks power? i dont think so while sentry is super powerful i am not getting on board with him being physically stronger than hulk...
We also have the statement from Tony saying "Every hero on Earth gave her everything they've got and it's enough."
all these statements seem to be there to point out to the reader that Sentry is that damn powerful.
Originally posted by bbrem123
Remember Though. This is not the same sentry we have seen in the past.We also have the statement from Tony saying "Every hero on Earth gave her everything they've got and it's enough."
all these statements seem to be there to point out to the reader that Sentry is that damn powerful.
i would love to have that strong of a sentry believe me, the hulk is one of if not the strongest phyiscally strong character in marvel its a tough feat if it holds i am all for it
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry Stomps. He isn't more powerful than all of earth combined though. Back on topic. It's clear he is above Herald levels.
The writing seems to indicate otherwise, Stark states that she is using all of every hero and it isn't enough.
Then when the Sentry arrives and stops Exitar in his tracks he says and he specifically pertains to the Sentry saying whoever Wasp was talking to he stopped his descent (and the writing is in bold which further shows he is shocked at whoever just stopped Exitar).
I don't see how he can't be above most if not all of the heroes on Earth, you yourself stated he is above Herald levels.
And in the grand scheme of things looking at Sentry's power compared to most Earth bound heroes there is a huge difference. There aren't many characters who could provide much of a challenge at all to him.
Heck when the Sentry fought the Collective he wasn't severely injured or damaged at all.
It's not unreasonable to suggest based on what we are seeing that it is possible.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
The writing seems to indicate otherwise, Stark states that she is using all of every hero and it isn't enough.Then when the Sentry arrives and stops Exitar in his tracks he says and he specifically pertains to the Sentry saying whoever Wasp was talking to he stopped his descent (and the writing is in bold which further shows he is shocked at whoever just stopped Exitar).
I don't see how he can't be above most if not all of the heroes on Earth, you yourself stated he is above Herald levels.
And in the grand scheme of things looking at Sentry's power compared to most Earth bound heroes there is a huge difference. There aren't many characters who could provide much of a challenge at all to him.
Heck when the Sentry fought the Collective he wasn't severely injured or damaged at all.
It's not unreasonable to suggest based on what we are seeing that it is possible.
On one side of Exitar you have Rogue holding him up stating " use theHulks gamma rage", then on the other side you have Sentry holding it up. Remember Rogue was holding up the ENTIRETY of Exitar before Sentry showed up. She did it by herself. It wasn't enough but it slowed him down. Hell, looking at it, she stopped him for a bit. Then Sentry assisted in lifting a portion of him. I'm not seeing what you are seeing friend.
Originally posted by carver9
On one side of Exitar you have Rogue holding him up stating " use theHulks gamma rage", then on the other side you have Sentry holding it up. Remember Rogue was holding up the ENTIRETY of Exitar before Sentry showed up. She did it by herself. It wasn't enough but it slowed him down. Hell, looking at it, she stopped him for a bit. Then Sentry assisted in lifting a portion of him. I'm not seeing what you are seeing friend.
Yes like you said she used his gamma power but she stated it wasn't enough and Exitar was descending still, that doesn't infer that she was actually helping (not to say she had no impact at all) but it was almost ineligible as she said herself.
Like I have said and will repeat the way Stark implies that the guy Wasp was talking to stopped the Celestial suggests that he was the person to stop him. He doesn't say.
"Whoever Wasp was talking to and Rogue, they stopped the Celestial"
Originally posted by carver9
On one side of Exitar you have Rogue holding him up stating " use theHulks gamma rage", then on the other side you have Sentry holding it up. Remember Rogue was holding up the ENTIRETY of Exitar before Sentry showed up. She did it by herself. It wasn't enough but it slowed him down. Hell, looking at it, she stopped him for a bit. Then Sentry assisted in lifting a portion of him. I'm not seeing what you are seeing friend.
to be honest. They make it pretty clear that sentry came in and accomplished what all of the earth's heroes combined could not.
I still what to see more in the next issue though. You very well could be right.
Originally posted by carver9
Preach it brother. An argument can be made for Sentry current strength though. Looking at his current power levels, he would merk Hulk imo.
yea he would def give him a better fight maybe even get a KO against the wwh but im not buying physically strong altho he is a beast
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It seems even you misinterpreted what he said. He said that he isn't as powerful as every hero put together and he would merk Hulk.So saying the hulk expert put people right makes no difference at all.
in an overall fight i think the original sentry would beat hulk that makes no differnece im just saying the phyiscal strength part thats all nothing more
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot****
He trashed Thor twice. Thor couldn't even put up a fight, Thor even tried throwing Mjolnir at the Sentry and he just stopped it by staring at it. He also throughout the whole fight was holding back (he mentions that himself) he also while holding back threw a punch that shook a planet. He also knocked Thor out with one blast of heat vision and that was the first fight.In the second one Sentry tore his whole head off minus his brain and Thor hit him from behind and destroyed his brain. Within seconds Sentry completely regenerated and Ko'd him in 2 punches.
In the latest issue of Uncanny Avengers Rogue absorbed the power of every Avenger including the likes of Hulk and Hyperion and the X-Men and she attempted to stop Exitar who was trying to literally sink his feet into the Earth, she even specifically states that she was using Hulk's strength specifically and that it wasn't enough. Then (off panel) Thor and Wasp convince Sentry to aid them against Exitar and then we see him on panel stop Exitar from moving at all.
So it's fair to say he is quite tough. Also I would've posted scans but I am not allowed yet apparently as I haven't posted enough.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
in an overall fight i think the original sentry would beat hulk that makes no differnece im just saying the phyiscal strength part thats all nothing more
If the original Sentry can defeat Hulk this one could absolutely murder him. This is a Sentry that has Ko'd Thor with 2 punches, when holding back threw a punch that shook a planet and he also KO'd Thor with heat vision.
Combined with everything else it's unfair. The Hulk to my knowledge hasn't taken Thor in 2 hits ever. I'd like to see proof that Hulk's physical strength can ever come near this version of Sentry.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
If the original Sentry can defeat Hulk this one could absolutely murder him. This is a Sentry that has Ko'd Thor with 2 punches, when holding back threw a punch that shook a planet and he also KO'd Thor with heat vision.Combined with everything else it's unfair. The Hulk to my knowledge hasn't taken Thor in 2 hits ever. I'd like to see proof that Hulk's physical strength can ever come near this version of Sentry.
hulks highest end feats for strength only r far superior to this im at work or i could post scans when i get home from work ill try and remember to hop on here for scans for a bit
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
hulks highest end feats for strength only r far superior to this im at work or i could post scans when i get home from work ill try and remember to hop on here for scans for a bit
Remember weaker versions of Sentry have performed extraordinary feats.
Like the Genis-Vell fight when while they were both holding back they were exerting power to shred entire worlds. This Sentry by the looks of things is above that one.