Buffy vs. Spock

The soldiers have implied feats. They're all highly trained SHIELD agents, and a part of Crossbones Unit, who is pretty much the best guy SHIELD has after Cap.

Klingons don't even have that. They're just Klingons. Also the soldiers looked competent, they were going after Cap in pairs and trying to not give him any room to retaliate.

The Klingons didn't hit a single person, even when Khan was standing there they missed. Just like he missed them a bunch.

Also, the feat is more impressive because Cap was handicapped while in a crowded elevator and still won with ease.

Originally posted by KingD19
The soldiers have implied feats. They're all highly trained SHIELD agents, and a part of Crossbones Unit, who is pretty much the best guy SHIELD has after Cap.

Klingons don't even have that. They're just Klingons. Also the soldiers looked competent, they were going after Cap in pairs and trying to not give him any room to retaliate.

The Klingons didn't hit a single person, even when Khan was standing there they missed. Just like he missed them a bunch.

Also, the feat is more impressive because Cap was handicapped while in a crowded elevator and still won with ease.

A Klingon knocked kirk silly, and kirk was a pretty good fighter. Klingons have implied feats too, they're all physically superior to humans and they're all warriors.

That drunk guy in the first movie knocked Kirk silly.

And I'm saying in terms of on screen competency, yes, Hydra Agents > Klingons.

Originally posted by Firefly218
So you're saying Hydra Agents > Klingons? 😆 No.

A Klingon knocked kirk silly, and kirk was a pretty good fighter. Klingons have implied feats too, they're all physically superior to humans and they're all warriors.

Remind me again, who has nuKirk beat that makes knocking him silly at all impressive?

If it's necessary I can put together a list of feats from First Avenger, Avengers, and Winter Soldier for Cap. It might take a bit though and I'm not sure if I want to take videos of each feat and upload them. But I can if necessary and everyone but Quan will see the truth.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Featless Klingons, Cap took down that many spec ops soldiers in a confined space with one arm and while being hit with tazer sticks.

Originally posted by Silent Master

That's a laugh, Khan missed several times and the only reason he was "unhittable" is because their aim sucked, I mean he literally just stood there.

Originally posted by Silent Master

Cap also sends people flying with hits, he also punched through reinforced submarine glass while underwater, lifted a motorcycle with 3 people on it.

Originally posted by Silent Master

So did the entire crew of Star Trek TNG, including normal human women and children.

Originally posted by Silent Master

Cap actually survived further jumps, hell he jumped out of an airplane without a chute.

Originally posted by Silent Master

Cap took hits from Red Skull, Loki, Winter Soldier and took a blast that was blowing up cars.

Originally posted by Silent Master

Didn't help him in the Spock fight, in fact he basically acted like a common brawler.

Don't forget near the end Cap dropped off of one Hellicarrier onto another a few hundred feet, rolled and kept going with no problems.

Originally posted by KingD19
Don't forget near the end Cap dropped off of one Hellicarrier onto another a few hundred feet, rolled and kept going with no problems.

Enough derailing. For further Khan Cap discussion we can go to the proper thread

Originally posted by Firefly218
With the exception of crossbones, they were featless hydra agents. Also, we saw that the average Klingon was vastly superior to Kirk. Klingons > Hydra Agents

Remind me again who nuKirk beat that knocking him silly is at all impressive.

What a laughable argument. Because "their aim sucked". They were most certainly trained professionals, and got hit by khan

Their aim did suck, it's not like Khan was dodging and ducking or even moving around at a fast pace.

Irrelevant

Then so is Khan's feat.

True, but Spock was extraordinarily intelligent also. Cap is a quick and practical thinker, but no where near Khan in terms of intelligence. Khan can use his intelligence advantage over Cap, whereas he couldn't versus spock.

Yet both Spock and Khan fought like brawlers so I don't see how their IQ is going to matter in a HTH fight.

For further Khan Cap discussion we can go to the proper thread

Everyone not massively trolling already agrees that Buffy wins, her feats easily trump anything NuSpock has done.

Buffy does have some major feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Everyone not massively trolling already agrees that Buffy wins, her feats easily trump anything NuSpock has done.

Don't try and hide you losing a debate and being called out as a hypocrite. We will all remember this day as the day you lost another debate.

Originally posted by Firefly218
So you're saying Hydra Agents > Klingons? 😆 No.

A Klingon knocked kirk silly, and kirk was a pretty good fighter. Klingons have implied feats too, they're all physically superior to humans and they're all warriors.

This

Originally posted by dadudemon
No he most certainly does not have objectively better strength, skill, agility, durability, and fighting speed feats. I have yet to numbers from your camp that support your position: you know, something actually objective.

Convince me with legitimate numbers and not more internet chest-beating and posturing. From my perspective, they look roughly the same in strength and durability with Khan having more speed and fighting skill.

I can say the same of you. Saying stuff like that is only intended to inflame or incite: sounds like trolling, doesn't it? It's not very fun to be guilty of the very thing you are seemingly deriding, is it?

SMTROLL ran from this statement like a coward.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
SM just got his shit pushed in and lost the debate. 😂

Originally posted by NemeBro
Quan's antics tend to incite strong emotions in some posters (I don't know how, his trolling is some of the least subtle I've seen, he's not like you or I) so they tend to rail against any character he champions in an nonobjective way. Like how Van Zan went from being a fairly big, strong, and fearless leader fighting against monstrous dragons to an idiot with girly punches who commits suicide at the slightest provocation.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Cap had insane feats in WS. He would beat Khan.

Yeah...I really should pull my head out of my ass and watch that film. You guys keep telling me this.

Edit - And I'd like to point out that I said Buffy wins in my first reply. I ain't trollin' the threads, yo. NemeBro hit it on the head: it's just the everyone will fight against Quanchi112 because he rustled your jimmies so much.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I love how you point out they aren't objective and lie. I am always honest and objective.

People are disagreeing with quan because he's wrong, not because they're upset.