Ghost Rider(Blaze) Vs Martian Manhunter

No PIS
No CIS
No BFR
No interdimensional travel

Im going with GR.

GR wins.

I literally just read 4 different GR bios before posting a response.
MM wins.

Mental tricks wont work.
Physical damage wont work.
Intangibility wont work.

How does MM beat him?

I can say the same things regarding MM.

To include mental tricks like the penance stare. All MM needs is to grow a few extra eye balls and it wouldnt work.
You oversell the hell out of your win picks! 😛

How would that counter a PS?

And what can MM do to Ghostrider?

Your alright man.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
How would that counter a PS?

And what can MM do to Ghostrider?

Your alright man.

if the person is blind, or if he cannot make eye contact due to the victim having more than two eyes, Ghost Rider's Penance Stare cannot function. An attempt to us

Also, MM is. Superman level character. He can and would overpower GR.
He's simply outside his weight class here.

GR dominates

Ive never seen that before.
But well, the more you know.

I wasnt banking on him using the PS anyway.

It will be a physical brawl, with hellfire coming into play, which may counter the intangiblity.
The chain is pure hellfire too.
I dont see GR owning MM, but i do see him walking away with the majority.

Well thats a more believable claim.
Not one i agree with, but no sweat.

With Jon's huge weakness to fire anywho.

It hasnt been that big a weakness in a long time.

Yeah you are right, but the hellfire works the same as PS,.
Even if hes intangible, its gonna roast his soul like a christmas turkey.

I dont think so.
MM's not a criminal. He's a rather noble guy.
He's done things he's not proud of but he's not a Bad person.
People hype the PS and hellfire like its a get out of jail free card. Not the case.
I already brought up a case on the forum of the PS not working on Punisher.
One of the biggest mass murderers in comics.
MM's got this fight more than not. Especially without CIS, PIS, BFR.

Lol @ the hellfire not doing anything.

Regardless if whether or not hes a noble guy.
The hellfire will still end him
If jon does attempt telepathy, then PS is a solid fight ender.
Jon has no answer here, he cant beat on him physically, he wont have any telepathic advantage, and the hellfire will kill his soul.

isnt MM biggest weakness fire? last time i checked gr was a ball of fire

Not so much anymore dave.

But extreme fire is a weakness which nulls his powers.

Ghost rider has extreme fire, and its a soul killer. MM has killed. His soul is tainted. The Rider will cleanse it imho.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Not so much anymore dave.

But extreme fire is a weakness which nulls his powers.

Ghost rider has extreme fire, and its a soul killer. MM has killed. His soul is tainted. The Rider will cleanse it imho.

i thought for some reason fire was the big weakness from him but i agree he eat MM for breakfast

I disagree with both of you, and will take my points elsewhere. Fun thread though.

It was, but DC changed it, so only extreme fire has the affect on him.

Agreed, GR is terribly underestimated on forum battles.