Death Sentry vs Sun God

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Originally posted by kakuzu
In my opinion the two feats of sun god are better than any sentry feat. Why? Sentry feats were based of favoristism like rulk, you had to make one character look weak to make him look strong than afterward return that character to their normal power level. I've seen sentry get dropped by freakin she hulk, and toyed with by Hercules, when the right writers are behind him(except for she hulk but he deserved that). Honestly sentry is one of the worst if not worst characters and easily the worst superman knock offs.

When sun god defeated the adapting sentinels it was under his own powers. What does he does after that? He fights and enraged hulk. I don't care what anybody says Hulk was getting beat and then came back and if hulk makes a comeback he is clearly getting stronger, and what happens, sun god defeats him using his most powerful attack( or what we can assume for now) after he just took out those adapters.

I'm not even saying who wins, I'm just saying sentry is a crappy character sun god is a superman knock out by he atleast has more respect than sentry for his two feats, well it sthree for the reed and beast feat really.

Tell me which one of the feats of Sun God that beats this.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1165437-new_thunderbolts_014_page_14.jpg

Or his feat with Exitar.

Or him stopping Mjolnir.

Or him 2 shot ko'ing Thor.

Ko'ing Thor in 1 hit with heat vision.

Holding back massively he threw a planet shaking punch.

Going at a speed of light that disoriented Thor.

I'm pretty sure Robert could replicate both of them feats that Sun God accomplished.

Sentry is a full blown marysuePIScharacter, available for the writers to use as they please. One day he might fight Galactus to a standstill or express matter manipulation exceeding that of the Molecule Man whilst the next he could struggle vs. the Punisher or get owned by the original Human Torch.

Thus, Sentry can beat Sun God only if the story requires him to. In the current story arc Sun God is pretty much supposed to be the biggest player in the field (sans maybe Strange). So, if they fought now, Sentry's PIS aura would adapt to the needs of the story and he would lose.

TL;DR... Sun God wins.

Originally posted by kakuzu
In my opinion the two feats of sun god are better than any sentry feat. Why? Sentry feats were based of favoristism like rulk, you had to make one character look weak to make him look strong than afterward return that character to their normal power level. I've seen sentry get dropped by freakin she hulk, and toyed with by Hercules, when the right writers are behind him(except for she hulk but he deserved that). Honestly sentry is one of the worst if not worst characters and easily the worst superman knock offs.

When sun god defeated the adapting sentinels it was under his own powers. What does he does after that? He fights and enraged hulk. I don't care what anybody says Hulk was getting beat and then came back and if hulk makes a comeback he is clearly getting stronger, and what happens, sun god defeats him using his most powerful attack( or what we can assume for now) after he just took out those adapters.

I'm not even saying who wins, I'm just saying sentry is a crappy character sun god is a superman knock out by he atleast has more respect than sentry for his two feats, well it sthree for the reed and beast feat really.


But he at least equaled, maybe exceeded what Rogue was doing here. She was powered up by hundreds of hearth's heroes. That's quite an uber feat.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But he at least equaled, maybe exceeded what Rogue was doing here. She was powered up by hundreds of hearth's heroes. That's quite an uber feat.

Hmm, good point actually. Sentry, much like the Sun God, is riding the crest of a wave at the moment. So I guess their encounter would end up in a stalemate after an epic fight, with the narration pointing out how each of their punches could shatter planets and how the released energies can be felt across the universe.

Originally posted by kakuzu
In my opinion the two feats of sun god are better than any sentry feat. Why? Sentry feats were based of favoristism like rulk, you had to make one character look weak to make him look strong than afterward return that character to their normal power level. I've seen sentry get dropped by freakin she hulk, and toyed with by Hercules, when the right writers are behind him(except for she hulk but he deserved that). Honestly sentry is one of the worst if not worst characters and easily the worst superman knock offs.

When sun god defeated the adapting sentinels it was under his own powers. What does he does after that? He fights and enraged hulk. I don't care what anybody says Hulk was getting beat and then came back and if hulk makes a comeback he is clearly getting stronger, and what happens, sun god defeats him using his most powerful attack( or what we can assume for now) after he just took out those adapters.

I'm not even saying who wins, I'm just saying sentry is a crappy character sun god is a superman knock out by he atleast has more respect than sentry for his two feats, well it sthree for the reed and beast feat really.

Lol!

Originally posted by Magnon
Sentry is a full blown marysuePIScharacter, available for the writers to use as they please. One day he might fight Galactus to a standstill or express matter manipulation exceeding that of the Molecule Man whilst the next he could struggle vs. the Punisher or get owned by the original Human Torch.

Thus, Sentry can beat Sun God only if the story requires him to. In the current story arc Sun God is pretty much supposed to be the biggest player in the field (sans maybe Strange). So, if they fought now, Sentry's PIS aura would adapt to the needs of the story and he would lose.

TL;DR... Sun God wins.

👆 because every other character in comic history has never had a low showing. Only Sentry has. That guy really sucks.

And you're right the punisher definitely gave Sentry a run for his money. Poor bob was bluffing when he was walking and talking to Frank begging him to stop because he didnt want to hurt him. meanwhile none of Frank's attacks even tickled him. Sentry was sure on the ropes then! Your comic knowledge is so impressive. You clearly read that book.

Originally posted by Magnon
Hmm, good point actually. Sentry, much like the Sun God, is riding the crest of a wave at the moment. So I guess their encounter would end up in a stalemate after an epic fight, with the narration pointing out how each of their punches could shatter planets and how the released energies can be felt across the universe.

I agree! Sun God is superior to Thor and would put Deathtrys feats to shame. He would probably kill thor in 1 hit.

BTW, did they explain how Rogue was able to absorb Simon's powers? It was pretty clearly established during her first fight vs. the Avengers that she couldn't absorb an "ionic energy" being such as Simon. And it was not a capacity-limit issue either since she could easily absorb Thor; Simon was simply immune to her power.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
I agree! Sun God is superior to Thor and would put Deathtrys feats to shame. He would probably kill thor in 1 hit.

👆

I would suggest you try to remain on-topic, though. This thread is not about Thor.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Tell me which one of the feats of Sun God that beats this.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1165437-new_thunderbolts_014_page_14.jpg

Or his feat with Exitar.

Or him stopping Mjolnir.

Or him 2 shot ko'ing Thor.

Ko'ing Thor in 1 hit with heat vision.

Holding back massively he threw a planet shaking punch.

Going at a speed of light that disoriented Thor.

I'm pretty sure Robert could replicate both of them feats that Sun God accomplished.

He most recent feat with the celestial is pretty cool, but we will never forget the hellcarrier, he has one where he can lift and can't lift still need more proofs.

He could never stop it if the writer was sucking him off. This goes back to the point I was making of a writer making one character look like shit to make the other look stronger, I doubt he could stop thors hammer if thor was hitting with with enough force to break his own molecular structure as he has done in the past.

He could never ko Thor. If I could list all the people that thor have taken hits from that make sentry look less than and ant you would even switch over this debate to my side.

Going at light speed at a being who has the power to keep up with people who can move at light speed. Yeah that doesn't make sense but yet again that was a writer having ignorance on one character and making one look stronger as I said before. I'm not saying Sentry couldn't give thor a fight, I'm just saying the writer shouldn't make it here Thor couldn't even give sentry a fight when a crappy superman knock off like that most definitely cannot beat thor.

Again I'm not even saying if he could or could not beat sun god, but feat wise his are better because he didn't fight a hulk who suddenly couldn't get angry and had one arm and suddenly sun god gains a new power to fart and destroy everything for one comic. Thats sentry logic.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But he at least equaled, maybe exceeded what Rogue was doing here. She was powered up by hundreds of hearth's heroes. That's quite an uber feat.

You're missing what's going on there. She was trying to support Exitar 'as a whole'. Her temporarily slowing down the entirety of Exitar is much greater than Sentry assisting with half of the ft.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But he at least equaled, maybe exceeded what Rogue was doing here. She was powered up by hundreds of hearth's heroes. That's quite an uber feat.

lol this feat was so stupid. It was so flawed, rogue cannot that many powers for one, two alot of people like simon she shouldn't have been able to take the powers off. We dont even know the other hundred and how insignificant they are. Once she stopped trying to hold back the powers it was really cake walk for her to hold it up.

Wanna talk about impressive feat, talk about hulk taking a hit from Ironman with enough force to power a continent!! That's legit uber feat.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But he at least equaled, maybe exceeded what Rogue was doing here. She was powered up by hundreds of hearth's heroes. That's quite an uber feat.
Not so, he could have been like a spotter for a person bench pressing.

The guy on the bench may have lifted too much weight and is unable to complete the lift by himself but with a little assistance knocks out the rep.

That's how I saw it. Still a crazy shared feat to lift a planet size being who was probably pressing down.

Originally posted by carver9
You're missing what's going on there. She was trying to support Exitar 'as a whole'. Her temporarily slowing down the entirety of Exitar is much greater than Sentry assisting with half of the ft.

Uh Carvster... You're the one missing what was going on. She was never meant to hold off Exitar by herself. Steve clearly explains to Tony that she was just 1/2 of the plan. The other half was Death Sentry!

So basically he was called upon to match the power of "every hero" on earth. Sick feat.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Not so, he could have been like a spotter for a person bench pressing.

The guy on the bench may have lifted too much weight and is unable to complete the lift by himself but with a little assistance knocks out the rep.

That's how I saw it. Still a crazy shared feat to lift a planet size being who was probably pressing down.


No.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No.

Think about it, Rogue was trying to push exitar back but only slowed him. Sentry comes in and stops him. If Rogue had stopped and sentry was alone, then I would agree with you, but Rogue was also pushing.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Think about it, Rogue was trying to push exitar back but only slowed him. Sentry comes in and stops him. If Rogue had stopped and sentry was alone, then I would agree with you, but Rogue was also pushing.

He was meant to match her. He was the other half of the equation.

She took one foot, he took the other. It can't get any clearer.

Originally posted by kakuzu
In my opinion the two feats of sun god are better than any sentry feat. Why? Sentry feats were based of favoristism like rulk, you had to make one character look weak to make him look strong than afterward return that character to their normal power level. I've seen sentry get dropped by freakin she hulk, and toyed with by Hercules, when the right writers are behind him(except for she hulk but he deserved that). Honestly sentry is one of the worst if not worst characters and easily the worst superman knock offs.

When sun god defeated the adapting sentinels it was under his own powers. What does he does after that? He fights and enraged hulk. I don't care what anybody says Hulk was getting beat and then came back and if hulk makes a comeback he is clearly getting stronger, and what happens, sun god defeats him using his most powerful attack( or what we can assume for now) after he just took out those adapters.

I'm not even saying who wins, I'm just saying sentry is a crappy character sun god is a superman knock out by he atleast has more respect than sentry for his two feats, well it sthree for the reed and beast feat really.

CLUELESS

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He was meant to match her. He was the other half of the equation.

She took one foot, he took the other. It can't get any clearer.

Ok, so when a task is split between 2 or more characters, it is supposed to mean that it was split evenly.

I originally said the following:

Originally posted by Diesldude
Rogue with the power of all the heros including the Hulk only slowed down Exitar's descent while D Sentry actually stopped it.

But after rethinking about it and comparing it with my real world weight lifting experience, I thought Sentry helped like a spotter. Oh well, Agree to disagree. 👆

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Uh Carvster... You're the one missing what was going on. She was never meant to hold off Exitar by herself. Steve clearly explains to Tony that she was just 1/2 of the plan. The other half was Death Sentry!

So basically he was called upon to match the power of "every hero" on earth. Sick feat.

Damn celey when you break it down like that, that feat sounds even more amazing.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Ok, so when a task is split between 2 or more characters, it is supposed to mean that it was split evenly.

I originally said the following:

But after rethinking about it and comparing it with my real world weight lifting experience, I thought Sentry helped like a spotter. Oh well, Agree to disagree. 👆

Lol you just wanted to throw in that you weight lift didn't you. I bodybuild as well but you dont need to do so in order to interpret this scenario. Hell there is nothing to interpret, Deathry is that damn powerful he wasn't a mere spotter.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Lol you just wanted to throw in that you weight lift didn't you.

LOL you got me. 👆