Desann vs. TPM Maul

Started by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ3 pages

Desann vs. TPM Maul

Desann as of his fight with Luke vs. Maul as of TPM. Who wins? Takes place on flat, neutral terrain.

If Desann beats Luke, which he did, he most definitely could beat Maul.

Desann sucks though

But that fight was long before like was greatly powered? Like 30 years or similar I believe.

Maul takes this imo

Beat Luke? He dropped a catwalk in front of him and booked it, how is that "beating"?

I'm going with Maul.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Beat Luke? He dropped a catwalk in front of him and booked it, how is that "beating"?

This is what I keep asking.

Desann managed a tactical draw which in his situation was a strategic win. He's still weaker than Kyle Katarn when push comes to shove.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Beat Luke? He dropped a catwalk in front of him and booked it, how is that "beating"?

Check that part again, Desann wins there.

They clash sabers for awhile, none of the fight canon because it's not scripted. Desaan pushes Luke, sabers down some wall and runs

Luke comes out completely unscathed.

Desann escaped, he most certainly did not win. He didn't even touch him. Luke brushed it off without a second thought.

The only thing Desann has going for him is that he was able to sneak up on Luke. Luke says to Kyle "I couldn't even sense him until he was right on on top of me" or something to that effect. Which means that Desann is so good at sneaking up on people that he fails to kill them...

And actually fighting Luke... he sucked at it. They crossed sabers, jumped off a catwalk, Desann pushed Luke away and dropped said catwalk in front of him. Then ran away to destroy Luke's Jedi Order. Since Luke hopped out a few seconds later, standing up straight and mournfully shaking his head, then talking in a calm, NOT-out-of-breath voice to Kyle... I'm gonna go with "Luke was totally unscathed".

Now... either Desann was so piss-poor in the Force that he couldn't sense that Luke was still alive (and completely unharmed), or, he figured that leaving behind the leader of the Jedi he despises so much that he's going off right now to kill them all, is a pretty fantastic idea. And leaving him inside his base of operations to boot--WTF?

Desann is either a terrible combatant who runs away. Or he's a terrible combatant who's also really stupid. It's one of those two. Actually, given Desann's entire plan was to attack a fortified planet with just a single troop carrier and a couple of TIE fighters (and this was after Daala's failed attack with an entire fleet), I'm leaning more towards the stupid option. But he also sucks as a fighter too.

Originally posted by Sinious
Check that part again, Desann wins there.
Just to summarize: thinking you won (or running away from combat, whichever), is not the same as actually winning.

Luke is obviously much stronger than Desann that is not the argument though.

Desann didn't just push Luke away. He basically TK'ed his ass. It was an impressive maneuver.

No, he basically just pushed him, and then didn't even hurt him. Running away without even hurting your opponent is not winning. Whether he was pressed for time or knew that he could not win, he ran. Desaan did not beat anyone.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They clash sabers for awhile, none of the fight canon because it's not scripted.

What do you mean by this?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What do you mean by this?

The fight's actually random each time you play it. Looking at this fight is the same as loading multiplayer and bringing in copies of both of them. The only thing that matters is the end when Desann pushes Luke.

It should also matter that they duel for a certain amount of time before jumping off the catwalk. We see a good 30 seconds of duel there, and we missed the beginning. It's still legit.

Also... In the video I watched, Luke was getting his ass kicked by Desaan's AI. C;

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It should also matter that they duel for a certain amount of time before jumping off the catwalk. We see a good 30 seconds of duel there, and we missed the beginning. It's still legit.

You see a good 30 seconds. I've seen more and less.

Also... In the video I watched, Luke was getting his ass kicked by Desaan's AI. C;


😆 Tavion's AI > Luke's AI.

The saber fighting is randomized every time. The scripted part comes after they jump off the catwalk. Speaking of:

YouTube video

That there is Desann doing absolutely no damage to Luke whatsoever before running off like a little b*tch.

You know the fact of the matter is that Desann's skill with the saber(or lack there of if your a dumbass) allowed him to survive an encounter with Luke while others have failed or been injured, regardless of how you view Luke's saber skill it is impressive as im sure we all know how Luke has defeated many skilled lightsaber duelist. and while he may not have won against Luke, he didn't lose either. how many other people have stalemated Luke? and how many of them were highly skilled and masterful duelist?

Yeah, standing up to Luke is a pretty great feat, as is managing to push him and stun him long enough to drop that thing on him.