Originally posted by eaebiakuya
We have on panel proof that the spear can tag a lightspeed character. And in the same panel we have the explanation of the feat. It says the spear can tag and go after the enemy, no matter how fast it is.But is not said every single time Proxima throw the spear she activate this ability.
Cool.
So if Hyperion walks around at a normal pace, then he should be OK 👆
I do not need to show any speed feats of Hyperion, as long as he stays as fast as a human Wakandan soldier, it would seem. Thanks.
Also, I literally just posted an example of how it did NOT hit its target, as a human was able to intercept it. The intended target (Shuri) was not hit.
Face it, if out of 100 appearances of Superman, 30 were of him getting beaten by....I dunno, the colour purple or something stupid like that, you guys would be all over it. 30% of a character's showings would be enough to give you a good baseline.
Here, we have three appearances of PM. One was amazing in terms of speed, but not that great in terms of durability/strength (Cage in New York was not put down, he bloodied her, and she tagged a lightspeeder)
One was bad (she was pierced by a spear thrown by a street level human, a Wakandan soldier out reacted her).
One was so-so (Cap with his plot armour was not killed, and outreacted. Debatable, so you could also look at it the other way and say it performed as intended).
So out of the three, we have one good, one bad, and one debatable. And yet, we are clinging to the one good feat as if it were the norm? Ok.
Originally posted by Stoic
Wouldn't it be far better to sit back, and wait until she comes back?
This is likely going to happen, and soon. Once she does, then we can
get into more threads with her in them. As of now she really is too new
to really argue for. The spear can either travel at the speed of light, or
as slow as a human being. I mean after all Monica knew that she was
in danger, so she may have slowed down to 30 MPH so that she could
be hit by something capable of killing her. Makes sense to me.
👆
I agree with this.
As for the second part of your statement, after being hit by a spear, PM decided to be merciful (despite being described as the most ruthless of Thanos...THANOS....'s generals) and threw it at a pace so that her opponents could have a chance. Makes sense to me.
Well the soldier jumped into its path. What you saw may just have been poor writing for plots sake. If not, Shuri would have been mortally wounded. Perhaps they just wanted her around for future stories, or more to the point; they actually need her around for future stories. I really think that you were reading too much into one scene, but like i said, we will see what happens once she comes back. Korvus is back correct? It shouldn't take long before Thanos is back. Actually we know that he's coming back.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think Hulk would outrun the spear either and she has already damaged Hyperion tremendously with a spear smash. This was without using the sun weight. So yeah, I see no reason why she shouldn't win.
Lol Proxima simply used a proximity smash attack that knocked everyone back who was in its radius, where are you getting the fact that Hype was tremendously damaged by that attack... Cap was also hit by that exact same attack. So if it tremendously damaged Hype then it should have easily killed cap right? You're over exaggerating.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well the soldier jumped into its path. What you saw may just have been poor writing for plots sake. If not, Shuri would have been mortally wounded. Perhaps they just wanted her around for future stories, or more to the point; they actually need her around for future stories. I really think that you were reading too much into one scene, but like i said, we will see what happens once she comes back. Korvus is back correct? It shouldn't take long before Thanos is back. Actually we know that he's coming back.
True, let's see. I actually agree with you (along with all the silly Sun God threads); we haven't seen enough of her yet.
I'm just saying, to summarise your arguments:
1. Hitting Spectrum - not PIS
2. Not hitting Shuri - PIS (plot armour)
3. Not hitting/killing Cap - PIS (plot armour)
You see where I'm coming from? Shuri and Cap are protected because the writer wanted them to live. I could argue the other way, and say that the writer simply wanted to show the spear actually hitting a Marvel hero of some repute, and used Spectrum, because of her special energy nature (i.e. the one person PM could tag without serious consequences). So her getting hit is PIS.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, let's see. I actually agree with you (along with all the silly Sun God threads); we haven't seen enough of her yet.I'm just saying, to summarise your arguments:
1. Hitting Spectrum - not PIS
2. Not hitting Shuri - PIS (plot armour)
3. Not hitting/killing Cap - PIS (plot armour)You see where I'm coming from? Shuri and Cap are protected because the writer wanted them to live. I could argue the other way, and say that the writer simply wanted to show the spear actually hitting a Marvel hero of some repute, and used Spectrum, because of her special energy nature (i.e. the one person PM could tag without serious consequences). So her getting hit is PIS.
Exactly.
And PIS implies an outlier.. So which is the outlier here?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, let's see. I actually agree with you (along with all the silly Sun God threads); we haven't seen enough of her yet.I'm just saying, to summarise your arguments:
1. Hitting Spectrum - not PIS
2. Not hitting Shuri - PIS (plot armour)
3. Not hitting/killing Cap - PIS (plot armour)You see where I'm coming from? Shuri and Cap are protected because the writer wanted them to live. I could argue the other way, and say that the writer simply wanted to show the spear actually hitting a Marvel hero of some repute, and used Spectrum, because of her special energy nature (i.e. the one person PM could tag without serious consequences). So her getting hit is PIS.
She did hit Cap though.