Originally posted by Kalen Sykeswhy do u even bother? This is his opinion on mastering the 7 forms in another thread. Kind of different than this one huh?
I'm not saying Bulq isn't skilled, just that mastering all 7 Forms doesn't automatically make someone a better duelist than an opponent who focuses on 1. A broader range, sure.
"Nothing indicates he is skilled at all other than Banes unsubstantiated opinion. Knowing seven forms doesnt make him a good duelist"-carthage
Originally posted by Raptor22
why do u even bother? This is his opinion on mastering the 7 forms in another thread. Kind of different than this one huh?"Nothing indicates he is skilled at all other than Banes unsubstantiated opinion. Knowing seven forms doesnt make him a good duelist"-carthage
Except the fact that he fought Windu? Are you daft? He has dueling feats unlike Ka'sim? He is more skilled than Bane by a wide margin
Originally posted by Raptor22
why do u even bother? This is his opinion on mastering the 7 forms in another thread. Kind of different than this one huh?"Nothing indicates he is skilled at all other than Banes unsubstantiated opinion. Knowing seven forms doesnt make him a good duelist"-carthage
Mostly, because I keep trying to understand his viewpoint, but you're right.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
Mostly, because I keep trying to understand his viewpoint, but you're right.
Ka'sim has no dueling feats unlike Bulq. Its a false analogy. Bulq's skill of the seven forms and skill level kept him alive fighting Windu, helped him defeat Tholme, and his accolade unlike Ka'sim's is actually valid. Not sure what's so terribly difficult to understand here.
Originally posted by carthage
Ka'sim has no dueling feats unlike Bulq. Its a false analogy. Bulq's skill of the seven forms and skill level kept him alive fighting Windu, helped him defeat Tholme, and his accolade unlike Ka'sim's is actually valid. Not sure what's so terribly difficult to understand here.
His losses against Dooku and Vos, for starters. Mastering all 7 Forms can give you anvedge in a fight, but it does not automatically make you a better duelist than someone who ficused on 1. Are you saying Bulq could beat ROTS Anakin or Obi-Wan?
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
His losses against Dooku and Vos, for starters. Mastering all 7 Forms can give you anvedge in a fight, but it does not automatically make you a better duelist than someone who ficused on 1?
. Are you saying Bulq could beat ROTS Anakin or Obi-Wan
Lol no considering both of those individuals are better duelists by order of their feats in spite of being technically less skilled. Both of them would kill him. Bane has no feats that put him as better than either in a sabers only match though.
Originally posted by carthage
It makes Bulq a better duelist given Bane has never defeated anyone without an amp, boost, orbalisks etc and he is less skilled. Had Bane beaten someone of note/fought someone on Windu's (or anyone's level), then we could gauge his ability versus Bulq.
Bane has also never faced anyone who wasn't amped. You keep skipping over that. Regardless of how you feel about Battle Meditation, it not only evened the playing field, it was actually turning the tide of battle slowly in the Jedi's favor. Enough of that, though. I don't think we will change each others opinion on that, so there's no need in continuing this endless cycle.
Originally posted by carthage
Lol no considering both of those individuals are better duelists by order of their feats in spite of being technically less skilled. Both of them would kill him. Bane has no feats that put him as better than either in a sabers only match though.
Fighting Windu and doing no better than Ventress (who Windu himself said was not his equal) isn't a gold star in his favor. Especially when his other showings have been lackluster (Dooku, Vos). Like I said before, Dooku was more impressed by Tholme, than Bulq and his 7 Form mastery.
Ventress didn't technically fight Windu though, she exchanged a few blows, admitted she was no match for him and ran. Bulq pressed Windu as hard as he could, and the fight lasted for panels. True Windu one shot him with a force push lol, but he still fought. Not really true, when Dooku one shot Bulq, he mentioned he was impressed more by Bulq's affinity for the darkside over Tholme's flirtations of it. Not sure what that has to do with his saber ability, Dooku also said Vos's form was appalling
Originally posted by carthage
Ventress didn't technically fight Windu though, she exchanged a few blows, admitted she was no match for him and ran. Bulq pressed Windu as hard as he could, and the fight lasted for panels. True Windu one shot him with a force push lol, but he still fought. Not really true, when Dooku one shot Bulq, he mentioned he was impressed more by Bulq's affinity for the darkside over Tholme's flirtations of it. Not sure what that has to do with his saber ability, Dooku also said Vos's form was appalling
Dooku may have not liked Tholme's flirtations with the dark side, but he was definitely more impressed with Tholme's dueling skills. The Vos comment was more because of your comment regarding masters of all forms being automatically better in a duel than masters of 1 or 2. Yeah, the Vos scene wasn't great, but it's just one of a few seperate instances where masters of 1 form have defeate fighters with a broader range. Again, I'm not saying Bulq isn't skilled (he is), but I can see Kun defeating him, while Bane defeats Koon. Team 2 wins.