All we've ever seen him lift are senate pods. And unless there's an official weight out there for those, it's speculation that they're as heavy or heavier than the Hulk. Aside from that, what has Sidious moved? Also as they're repulsor tech, they could be very easy to move since they're already being held afloat.
And in 08 Hulk with Ed Norton, he does a thunderclap to put out the fire of the helicopter. This version doing it would send those guys flying.
But since RJ is saying people can do anything that they should be able to. Even if he'd never thunderclapped, as strong as he is it's a valid option.
More powerful than Yoda is debatable. And the X-Wing feat wasn't easy. You can't just assume Y>X when it comes to Force Users. And we do have reason to believe it was being used. Whenever a senator had the floor, their pod would detach and float about. With the ease they moved them it's a valid argument that the tech is always active. They didn't even have to force them from their moorings.
He was at least 10-20 feet away I'd guess. Here's the scene
YouTube video
He was a lot weaker in this incarnation than Avengers Hulk, so the subsequent thunderclap would do a lot more. Even back then though, it shook a cargo helicopter and threw everyone inside back from the force alone, as well as putting out a fire.
Originally posted by KingD19
More powerful than Yoda is debatable. And the X-Wing feat wasn't easy. You can't just assume Y>X when it comes to Force Users.
Well at least as powerful as. And if he's as powerful, it's logical he can generate just as much energy as him
And we do have reason to believe it was being used. Whenever a senator had the floor, their pod would detach and float about. With the ease they moved them it's a valid argument that the tech is always active. They didn't even have to force them from their moorings.
Which would be because they were being actively used by Senators, not being forced out of their moorings
He was at least 10-20 feet away I'd guess. Here's the sceneYouTube video
He was a lot weaker in this incarnation than Avengers Hulk, so the subsequent thunderclap would do a lot more. Even back then though, it shook a cargo helicopter and threw everyone inside back from the force alone, as well as putting out a fire.
Hmph. Not bad. The "whole lot more" would be unquantifiable as to how much
The point I'm making is that Yoda and Sidious easily pulled them away from the moorings. That only happens when they're active and being used. It's a valid argument that they could be in stand by mode or something, otherwise they'd have to rip them free, which they clearly didn't.
Also all of the pods were clearly active as they were all lit up as if they were in use. They even made the same noise as normal when they were chucking them around.
We know based on feats from HULK and Avengers, that Avengers Hulk is in a whole nother league. A thunderclap from him would do tons more damage than that one, and would probably end a fight since 2 of those three are pretty much fragile old men.
How are any of the Sith going to force tk the Hulk when they are too busy trying survive the barrage of mini missiles from Iron Man, like the one he used to wipe out several Chitauri flyers at once during the initial stages of the New York fight? As well as Hawkeye and Black Widow shooting at them... and I haven't even mentioned Cap. 😗
I don't recall any Jedi or Sith doing well with Lightning. Thor unleashes his AOE lightning from the ground or Air with Ease.
Unless there has been showings of Jedi or Sith restraining people for long periods of time, those supposed feats are not valid.
It took Luke immense concentration to lift R2D2 and Yoda even more to lift the X-wing.
They cannot stop flyers like Thor and Ironman, because they have zero feats to prove they can. Jedi/Sith never stopped any speeders, spacecrafts of any sort that could fly or levitate, therefore they cannot stop Thor or Ironman.
Originally posted by KingD19
Because it only affected human durability people. Hulk shrugged off vulcan cannon fire, Thor's hits, falling 30k+ feet or so, etc...
Not sure how comparing brute force attacks or even physical attacks to force attacks is an good example. A force choke is not a physical or brute force attack. I do not see how brute strength is going to make the Hulk resist.
It does physical damage though. It might be TK inflicted, but it's still like a strong hand is choking you. Unless that force exerted is enough to damage someone like Hulk, we have no reason to believe it will.
And do we? I'd missed that part, but if that's just one out of the dozens he throws?... That one could have been faulty or locked in. The others clearly weren't.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerEasy. IM is held in place by Sidious and Vader force speeds over and decaps him. Easy cheesy.
How are any of the Sith going to force tk the Hulk when they are too busy trying survive the barrage of mini missiles from Iron Man, like the one he used to wipe out several Chitauri flyers at once during the initial stages of the New York fight? As well as Hawkeye and Black Widow shooting at them... and I haven't even mentioned Cap. 😗
Cap? Lol, come on, he's a non factor here. Same for Black Widow. Dooku force lifts Hulk and uses him as a battering ram on the rest of the Avengers.