Sebastian Shaw Vs Val Armorr

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Who stabbed Shaw? That sounds really dumb...

Whats the scan supposed to show, Shaw didnt seem damaged. The second scan said it had been removed

It just looks like he ripped the back of that shirt

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Whats the scan supposed to show, Shaw didnt seem damaged. The second scan said it had been removed

Blood.

Left on his hand from touching the wound, and some on the floor.

Otherwise didn't seem bothered, but he was bleeding.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
It just looks like he ripped the back of that shirt

Next page showed it. The one that's not working.

The scan was pulled from a Wolverine vs Shaw thread here on KMC, where old posters talk in detail about the blood (which pooled on the floor) and whether it really meant much.

Thanks for all the info guys!

Actually it does look like Shaw was cut there. 4th panel you see on the right side, he's got blood on his left hand. Seems like he has it on his right hand that's holding where Wolvie struck too. Note the red on the hands compared to the purple of his shirt, but yeah, if you weren't told and just saw that scan I can see missing it.

And classic Karate Kid sliced off Equus'(a fairly durable Superman villain) with a knife hand strike(not actual strike with a knife, better known as "karate chop"😉 during COUNTDOWN. So, I guess cdtm's scenario could happen.

I like how you explain what a knife hand chop is.
You just stopped about 12 posts arguing over the OP not specifying weapons/weapons not being part of KK's usual gear.

Originally posted by riv6672
I like how you explain what a knife hand chop is.
You just stopped about 12 posts arguing over the OP not specifying weapons/weapons not being part of KK's usual gear.

Oh i'm serious.
This is a comic vs board. People, including me, will argue with a stop sign. 😛

Originally posted by riv6672
Oh i'm serious.
This is a comic vs board. People, including me, will argue with a stop sign. 😛

Well then, good day to you.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
It just looks like he ripped the back of that shirt

Thats pretty obviously blood.
It'd take a pretty big clothes horse to be staring at a scrap of cloth like that.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Shaw absorbs kinetic energy, he is a horrible match up for a MA.

Shaw has limits. Val can hit hard and fast enough to reach them, before he drops.

Shaw isn't hitting Val.

Originally posted by cdtm
Shaw has limits. Val can hit hard and fast enough to reach them, before he drops.

Shaw isn't hitting Val.

Not sure what you mean by "limits." And just going by how you wrote it, what I know of Shaw I don't think that would turn-out well. If he were to do something more like the attack he did to cut off Equus' arm in a vulnerable area I could see that.

But then, being classic(meaning includes Pre-CRISIS appearances) Karate Kid, in a comic I could totally see a writer coming up with some shit like Val's technique is done in such a way that the damage done is immense yet the actual amount of kinetic energy is no greater than a high level power blow from a strong but still normal human, so somehow the damage exceeds the boost from kinetic energy Shaw would receive, having him knocked-out or otherwise incapacitated. 'Cuz.....

Val's a ringer. He's called human, but performs like a herald, basically. He's even held PC Superboy in a muscle lock, and broken out of Inertron shackles (Think secondary adamantium), feats of pure strength that somehow get chalked up to technique.

Shaws been overloaded, is what I mean by him having limits. He absorbs energy, but it's not a limitless threshhold.

If this was Superman, or Hulk, would Shaw tank their punches?

Originally posted by cdtm
Val's a ringer. He's called human, but performs like a herald, basically. He's even held PC Superboy in a muscle lock, and broken out of Inertron shackles (Think secondary adamantium), feats of pure strength that somehow get chalked up to technique.

Shaws been overloaded, is what I mean by him having limits. He absorbs energy, but it's not a limitless threshhold.

If this was Superman, or Hulk, would Shaw tank their punches?

I know Karate Kid performs like a Top-Tier despite not actually having any powers. But I've had more exposure to him from the Post-ZERO HOUR incarnation of the LSH where he was toned down(but still did shit that was superhuman despite he wasn't superhuman), so I tend to think of that version when I think of Karate Kid.

And I dunno, I've seen little of Shaw.

A ringer? Val??? 😇