Sesshoumaru vs Bleach Universe!

Started by Blazing Storm2 pages

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What? He created a portal of unknown distance to outer space. Or maybe just created a similar environment. His powers have very obvious limits, or he would still be alive.
The space he created is called "galaxy room". So its a dimension that he created with his imagination, not a portal to space.

So why couldn't he create a new body?
Because he never tried...

So you have a definite speed for this meteor?
yes, it was moving at hypersonic+ speeds as it was fast enough to be on fire and keep glowing.

The minimum speed required for a meteor to glow is 2-4 km/s

http://www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/faqf/

"At some point, usually between 15 to 20 km (9-12 miles or 48,000-63,000 feet) altitude, the meteoroid remnants will decelerate to the point that the ablation process stops, and visible light is no longer generated. This occurs at a speed of about 2-4 km/sec (4500-9000 mph)."

Either way, that whole "dinosaur life wipe" argument is retarded, because that's a theory,
Even gravitation is just a theory.

By your logic its false just because you say its a theory...

first off, and secondly, the meteor was most likely falling nowhere even COMPARABLY fast to that theoretical meteor.
Wrong. it WAS moving at a comparable speed.

UH, WHAT THE PHUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT? First off, those gag scenes are as accurate as the filler you're using.
What filler?

I can't debate properly? HA!
Yep. Good debaters can be reasoned with, and dont go around throwing insults at others when someone disagrees with them

Get back to me when your so-called "universe level reality warper", doesn't get killed by someone with lower than continent feats. 👆
Gremmy wasnt killed by Kenpachi, but rather by his own power that turned into a monster.

Seems like you either dont read bleach, or keep making stuff up.hhh "At some point, usually between 15 to 20 km (9-12 miles or 48,000-63,000 feet) altitude, the meteoroid remnants will decelerate to the point that the ablation process stops, and visible light is no longer generated. This occurs at a speed of about 2-4 km/sec (4500-9000 mph)."

Either way, even an Island-Country buster can easily solo Inuyasha-verse. No need for universal or even continent level

Originally posted by Blazing Storm
The space he created is called "galaxy room". So its a dimension that he created with his imagination, not a portal to space.

Because he never tried...

yes, it was moving at hypersonic+ speeds as it was fast enough to be on fire and keep glowing.

The minimum speed required for a meteor to glow is 2-4 km/s

http://www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/faqf/

[b]"At some point, usually between 15 to 20 km (9-12 miles or 48,000-63,000 feet) altitude, the meteoroid remnants will decelerate to the point that the ablation process stops, and visible light is no longer generated. This occurs at a speed of about 2-4 km/sec (4500-9000 mph)."

Even gravitation is just a theory.

By your logic its false just because you say its a theory...

Wrong. it WAS moving at a comparable speed.

What filler?

Yep. Good debaters can be reasoned with, and dont go around throwing insults at others when someone disagrees with them

Gremmy wasnt killed by Kenpachi, but rather by his own power that turned into a monster.

Seems like you either dont read bleach, or keep making stuff up.hhh "At some point, usually between 15 to 20 km (9-12 miles or 48,000-63,000 feet) altitude, the meteoroid remnants will decelerate to the point that the ablation process stops, and visible light is no longer generated. This occurs at a speed of about 2-4 km/sec (4500-9000 mph)."

Either way, even an Island-Country buster can easily solo Inuyasha-verse. No need for universal or even continent level [/B]

1. Stop using name of attack. It means nothing, and there are no statements to suggest otherwise, let alone feats.

All he did was envelope Kenpachi in a pocket of outer space. I don't know what drugs you're on to think that's a dimensional feat, but I think you should probably lay off it.

2. You mean because his imagination was limited, as was stated blatantly by himself.

So Gremmy's power is, as I said, weaker than Kenpachi level, which is around meteorite level. Meaning, Gremmy is around country level. That is all. I honestly think your imagination is more powerful than Gremmy's, judging by the outlandish idiocy of these posts you keep pulling out of your ass.

3. So basically what you're saying is that it was moving fast enough to be on fire, so it has a definite speed... well, if you can assume that it was on fire, with no proof, even though the meteorite didn't have a trail, I can just as accurately assume that Gremmy made it be on fire... even though it wasn't on fire, and temperatures of it being on fire, if it was, would have burned and seared Kenny, as proven by the space pocket. 👆

4. Uh, no, lol. Gravitation is a LAW of physics. Einstein's theory of relativity is a theory, genius. 😉

Either way, there is no observable proof that the dinosaurs were killed by a meteorite, and even if they were, it was because of the ice age that immediately followed because of the clouds of soot in the air that blocked out the sun. They didn't just immediately die. In fact, all that happened, if a meteor was the cause, was a crater appeared in North America, and it shifted tectonic plates that separated over thousands of years because of Earth quakes further drifting continents apart. Either way, there is no size of the meteor either, without pixel scaling, which still would only put Seireitei at about five miles in diameter, making the meteor smaller, as well as slower.

5. Moving faster based on? Oh right, it was on fire. You're forgetting that this is not an actual meteor, and that it didn't even pass through the atmosphere. It was conjured by Gremmy's imagination, and still is unscalable, and has average falling speed. Even the cannon that Kakaku Shiba shot at the seireitei broke the barrier much faster. That was early Bleach, and still not even captain level speed. Which is why Kenny could destroy it so fast, and why low tier soul reapers could react to it casually without even thinking about it.

6. The fillers you use to determine the size of seireitei, in other words, movies. Which makes the whole beach thing still accurate.

7. Yes, but good debaters use reason to debate. They don't make things up and assume all their feats.

8. Uh, no. I'll post it again, just because you obviously can't read.

Gremmy said specifically that Kenny defeated his imagination. That has been established. Even with Gremmy's visionary ability, Kenny is still stronger and able to defeat him. Meaning anyone Kenny level+ is stronger. Meaning, of course, that you're entire assumed perspective on him somehow being universe level, when he gets killed by a country/small continent level character, is as ridiculous as it sounds to someone that doesn't lack basic mental functions.

"My imagination is reaching its limit too.". Universe level? You are literally too stupid to insult. How do you get universe level from someone who dies by overusing his power at country level?

GG

"Either way", I can still use your logic and put Inuyasha at galaxy level because of his galaxy slash with black Tetsaiga. Since I'm not a retard though, I will use ACTUAL feats, which include Naraku using his miasma to instantly affect the entire planet with most of the jewel shards, and Sesshomaru still being able to easily disintegrate him with his bakusaiga.

Going by that feat alone, even without his superior speed and reaction time, Sesshomaru can vaporize any Bleach character just by touching them. Including Gremmy, who's regen powers are less impressive than Naraku's.

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Tessai stops time and any random character cuts his head off.

Originally posted by marwash22
this thread is ridiculous.

What feat of any Inu Yasha character is even above mach 1?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
1. Stop using name of attack. It means nothing, and there are no statements to suggest otherwise, let alone feats.

All he did was envelope Kenpachi in a pocket of outer space. I don't know what drugs you're on to think that's a dimensional feat, but I think you should probably lay off it.

The attack wouldn't have a name if Gremmy simply teleported Kenny to outer space. It was something he created with his imagination.

So the pocket dimension was one of Gremmy's creationg, and it had stars in it.

2. You mean because his imagination was limited, as was stated blatantly by himself

http://i28.mangapanda.com/bleach/579/bleach-4943987.jpg

That's Kubo's way of portraying Kenpachi is a godlike character. He was so strong that Gremmy couldn't imagine his power.


3. So basically what you're saying is that it was moving fast enough to be on fire, so it has a definite speed... well, if you can assume that it was on fire, with no proof, even though the meteorite didn't have a trail, I can just as accurately assume that Gremmy made it be on fire... even though it wasn't on fire, and temperatures of it being on fire, if it was, would have burned and seared Kenny, as proven by the space pocket. 👆
Read the manga and come back. It was on fire.

There was no reason for Gremmy to have it on fire except but to boost its speed and thus its power.

4. Uh, no, lol. Gravitation is a LAW of physics. Einstein's theory of relativity is a theory, genius. 😉
A law is nothing but a mathematical representation of a theory.

Relativity isn't disproved either. Scientific evidence supports it.

Either way, theories aren't required. By using simple kinetic energy calculations, a city sized meteor moving at hyoersonic speeds will have country+ potency.

Either way, there is no size of the meteor either, without pixel scaling
Seireitei has over 12 districts, several mountain ranges as well as 12000+ regions.
It was also stated by yoruichi that it'll take 10 days to just get from one gate to another, so it makes it atleast around a hundred miles wide.

A meteor thats dozens of kilometers wide will be continent level in potency

Moving faster based on? Oh right, it was on fire. You're forgetting that this is not an actual meteor, and that it didn't even pass through the atmosphere. It was conjured by Gremmy's imagination, and still is unscalable, and has average falling speed.
And what Gremmy imagines isn't inferior to normal matter. He can create even life out of nothing.

Average huh? Minimum speed of a meteor is around 11 km/s, so thats what its speed should atleast be.

Going by that feat alone, even without his superior speed and reaction time, Sesshomaru can vaporize any Bleach character just by touching them. Including Gremmy, who's regen powers are less impressive than Naraku's.
Superior speed? Inuyasha characters are barely Mach 1, and thats not even Orihime level.

Gremmy drops a Seireitei sized meteorite on their ass or turns their bones to cookies. GG Inuyashaverse

Originally posted by marwash22
😐

Tessai stops time and any random character cuts his head off.

^^ This guy gets it

Originally posted by pym-ftw
What feat of any Inu Yasha character is even above mach 1?
They are supersonic at best.

Not even Orihime level

Originally posted by Blazing Storm
The attack wouldn't have a name if Gremmy simply teleported Kenny to outer space. It was something he created with his imagination.

So the pocket dimension was one of Gremmy's creationg, and it had stars in it.

That's Kubo's way of portraying Kenpachi is a godlike character. He was so strong that Gremmy couldn't imagine his power.

Read the manga and come back. It was on fire.

There was no reason for Gremmy to have it on fire except but to boost its speed and thus its power.

A law is nothing but a mathematical representation of a theory.

Relativity isn't disproved either. Scientific evidence supports it.

Either way, theories aren't required. By using simple kinetic energy calculations, a city sized meteor moving at hyoersonic speeds will have country+ potency.

Seireitei has over 12 districts, several mountain ranges as well as 12000+ regions.
It was also stated by yoruichi that it'll take 10 days to just get from one gate to another, so it makes it atleast around a hundred miles wide.

A meteor thats dozens of kilometers wide will be continent level in potency

And what Gremmy imagines isn't inferior to normal matter. He can create even life out of nothing.

Average huh? Minimum speed of a meteor is around 11 km/s, so thats what its speed should atleast be.

Superior speed? Inuyasha characters are barely Mach 1, and thats not even Orihime level.

Gremmy drops a Seireitei sized meteorite on their ass or turns their bones to cookies. GG Inuyashaverse

1. Exactly. It was a portal to outer space, just like I originally said. Either way, the feat is clearly of him surrounding Kenpachi in a portal connecting outer space to the area they were at. You have not even a statement claiming it as a "pocket dimension".

There is literally not a single star. I will repost the scan.

2. Wrong again. Gremmy imagined Kenny's power perfectly. He COULDN'T imagine that his body could withstand that power, meaning that he was obviously stronger than Gremmy. This, again, along with the statement that his imagination is limited, sorely outweighs your baseless assumption that characters below moon level are somehow universal gods.

3. So what you're saying is that the Ryoka were also on fire? Because, you know, half of them would have died if that were the case. The light from the collision of the meteor and the senkaimon does not constitute fire.

I mean sure, the meteor might have had fire on it, but it was not in any way, shape or form, COVERED in fire, which means it didn't have a tail, which means it had fire on certain parts simply because it did. Otherwise it would have melted the barrier long before touching it.

Either way, it does make sense, because the meteor being on fire would have increased the destructivity of it, solely because a meteor on fire is more destructive than a meteor not on fire.

4. What? A law is a proven, factual rule by which nature abides.

Yes. Scientific evidence also supports bumble bee's being incapable of flight.

See, I knew this would happen. You're now trying to take the argument that I have been using, because you are unable to, at this point, save face and stop yourself from looking stupid. I said Kenny and Gremmy were around country level, and you said they were universe level. Either stick to your abomination of an argument, or stop posting altogether. You making things up and then flip-flopping your argument when your side begins to crumble, only serves to make you look even more stupid.

5. There you go, making things up again. Seireitei's highest point is Sokyoku HILL. This obviously means there are no mountains there. Not to mention that you're probably going by the scene where Aizen and Gin were trying to find the real Karakura town from the fake one, which was btw, in an undisclosed location.

6. Based on? Gremmy's visions die with him. His statement was disproven by his body, and his "other bodies" vanishing when he died.

Yes, that is the average speed of a meteor. THAT FALLS FROM OUTER SPACE. Gremmy's meteor did not, therefor it did not achieve as much velocity as a normal meteor, and is again, vastly too much of a variable to scale.

7. You clearly have not seen either Inuyasha OR Bleach. Orihime Mach 1? I guess I am too. You're forgetting that she runs track in the same body that she fights in, which would mean she should easily be the most successful human track star in her world. Where do you get your weed?

Uh, except Inuyasha has dodged and fought lightning and thunder speed characters since episode 15. You're also forgetting that Sesshomaru can move as a mass of light, making him light speed. Just as well, Kagome can shoot arrows made of lightning, Sesshomaru blitzed the god of sunlight and fire(who was stated to be light speed), and several other feats far above Bleach, mostly from Sesshomaru, including outrunning a teleporting Naraku.

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Holy sh!t that is some kinda dumb logic.

Sesshoumaru in his ball of light is still out paced by his two headed Dragon. And using the Thunder & lightning brothers as Ftl reaction feats based solely on their names is laughable if i wasn't sure you truly believed it to be fact.

Also wtf would a flaming meteor > non flaming meteor?

Inuyasha has dodged and fought lightning and thunder speed characters since episode 15.
Scans or GTFO

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
[B]1. Exactly. It was a portal to outer space, just like I originally said.
It wasn't a portal. It was a dimension created by Gremmy

Either way, the feat is clearly of him surrounding Kenpachi in a portal connecting outer space to the area they were at. You have not even a statement claiming it as a "pocket dimension".

There is literally not a single star. I will repost the scan.

No, there are stars

And look at the original japanese scan. There are even more stars in that

3. So what you're saying is that the Ryoka were also on fire? Because, you know, half of them would have died if that were the case. The light from the collision of the meteor and the senkaimon does not constitute fire.
The meteor was already on fire before the collision. Re read the chapter.

The ryoka have nothing to do with this

4. What? A law is a proven, factual rule by which nature abides.

Yes. Scientific evidence also supports bumble bee's being incapable of flight.

See, I knew this would happen. You're now trying to take the argument that I have been using, because you are unable to, at this point, save face and stop yourself from looking stupid. I said Kenny and Gremmy were around country level, and you said they were universe level. Either stick to your abomination of an argument, or stop posting altogether. You making things up and then flip-flopping your argument when your side begins to crumble, only serves to make you look even more stupid.

5. There you go, making things up again. Seireitei's highest point is Sokyoku HILL. This obviously means there are no mountains there.
The scan with Sokyoku hill is inconsistent

Here's a mountain range inside seireitei

Its country sized based on Yoruichi's statement that it takes 10 days to walk from one gate to another

7. You clearly have not seen either Inuyasha OR Bleach. Orihime Mach 1? I guess I am too. You're forgetting that she runs track in the same body that she fights in, which would mean she should easily be the most successful human track star in her world. Where do you get your weed?
She reated to and outran Mayuri's explosion, and explosions are atleast supersonic.

Sesshomaru can move as a mass of light, making him light speed.
Funny...

Well, this pretty much confirms you're a troll