- The pound Per Pound List -

Originally posted by -K-M-

That was a joke. I said probably and I said that because this is New Superman.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
1)[B]Superman - The undisputed strength champion, while in a weakened state no less.

2)Hyperion - The disciple of the Sun comes in second.

3)Hulk - If Banner starts doing supersets his rank may improve.

4)Thor - The Odinson misses the medal stand.

5)Blue Marvel, Shazam - Marvel has the definitive feats but I feel Billy's implied status is on par.

6)Wonder Woman

7) J'onn [/B]

LIES

Originally posted by carver9
When did i say anything about that showing being an average for Hulk?

You are saying that Hulk fought a character who went against Celestials. That was that being's best feat. You are saying that BM koed someone who withstood planet destroying force. Yet fail to understand that characters don't always operate at their highest level in any other comic you see them in. In other words, Sentry wasn't operating at planet destroying durability when he fought BM and that creature who fought against Celestials wasn't operating at Celestial fighting level (which is far above Odin) when he fought Hulk. Otherwise, the feat is far worst than Spider-man vs. Firelord since Celestials are above Heralds far more than heralds are able meta beings.

Originally posted by h1a8
lmao

You are saying that Hulk fought a character who went against Celestials. That was that being's best feat. You are saying that BM koed someone who withstood planet destroying force. Yet fail to understand that characters don't always operate at their highest level in any other comic you see them in. In other words, Sentry wasn't operating at planet destroying durability when he fought BM and that creature who fought against Celestials wasn't operating at Celestial fighting level (which is far above Odin) when he fought Hulk. Otherwise, the feat is far worst than Spider-man vs. Firelord since Celestials are above Heralds far more than heralds are able meta beings.

If a being went against Celestials and then Hulk fought that being and did well, then that's exactly what happened. Also, even though I don't agree with this, a Hulk that was given the ability to tap into his full power was stated as being equal (well, it was stated that he was above i THINK) to Celestial power. Then let's also not forget about his recent showing. An abstract had to use up almost all of his power just to hold Hulk in place (Savage Hulk) and Hulk still wasn't at his Prime. Then let's also not forget about Onslaught who was amped with an abstract being (Franklin) and Nate Grey. Hulk outright destroyed his physical shell with an earth shaking punch and Onslaught during that time was compared to a Celestial. Why am I telling you all of this when you already know (hahahahahahaha).

Love this showing. Hulk punching someone in the chest/face and the shockwaves from his punches was causing planetary destruction around the world.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10172990/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_008.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10172996/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173003/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173009/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173017/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173023/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_013.jpg.html

Originally posted by carver9
Love this showing. Hulk punching someone in the chest/face and the shockwaves from his punches was causing planetary destruction around the world.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10172990/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_008.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10172996/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173003/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173009/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173017/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173023/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_013.jpg.html

Hulk and those creatures were fighting in the core of the Earth. They made the mantle unstable. This is not shockwaves at all. It's a good feat but not even planetary at all.
Also one of those beings were actually fighting Hulk back and contributed to the showing.

Originally posted by carver9
If a being went against Celestials and then Hulk fought that being and did well, then that's exactly what happened. Also, even though I don't agree with this, a Hulk that was given the ability to tap into his full power was stated as being equal (well, it was stated that he was above i THINK) to Celestial power. Then let's also not forget about his recent showing. An abstract had to use up almost all of his power just to hold Hulk in place (Savage Hulk) and Hulk still wasn't at his Prime. Then let's also not forget about Onslaught who was amped with an abstract being (Franklin) and Nate Grey. Hulk outright destroyed his physical shell with an earth shaking punch and Onslaught during that time was compared to a Celestial. Why am I telling you all of this when you already know (hahahahahahaha).

So you are telling me that Savage Hulk was operating at Abstract Levels and could one shot Odin with ease? Assuming you say yes, then how do you know that was the case instead of that being operating at a much lower level (Hulk's level)?

Onslaught's shell could be broken with trans level power. His shell had nothing to do with Franklin Richards and Nate Grey.
If you think Onslaught was equal to a Celestial then just say so and be laughed at. Cause that would mean Onslaught could spite stomp Odin with ease.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk and those creatures were fighting in the core of the Earth. They made the mantle unstable. This is not shockwaves at all. It's a good feat but not even planetary at all.
Also one of those beings were actually fighting Hulk back and contributed to the showing.

So you are telling me that Savage Hulk was operating at Abstract Levels and could one shot Odin with ease? Assuming you say yes, then how do you know that was the case instead of that being operating at a much lower level (Hulk's level)?

Onslaught's shell could be broken with trans level power. His shell had nothing to do with Franklin Richards and Nate Grey.
If you think Onslaught was equal to a Celestial then just say so and be laughed at. Cause that would mean Onslaught could spite stomp Odin with ease.

Where was it stated they were in earths core?

Lol...that same Abstract issues later was controlling an IG wielder and a Phoenix force user along with other powerful beings and again, that was Issues later. If you don't know what you are talking about then be quiet.

Lol...Onslaught was amped to the point that he was able to create a sun with the wave of his hand along with a Utopia. Every hero on Earth combined did nothing to him except the Hulk. Again, if you don't know what you are talking about then be quiet. Also, prove that Onslaught with this amp shell could be broken with trans level power, especially with him having full access to Franklin powers.

Originally posted by carver9
Where was it stated they were in earths core?

Lol...that same Abstract issues later was controlling an IG wielder and a Phoenix force user along with other powerful beings and again, that was Issues later. If you don't know what you are talking about then be quiet.

Lol...Onslaught was amped to the point that he was able to create a sun with the wave of his hand along with a Utopia. Every hero on Earth combined did nothing to him except the Hulk. Again, if you don't know what you are talking about then be quiet. Also, prove that Onslaught with this amp shell could be broken with trans level power, especially with him having full access to Franklin powers.

It was shown, they were in the Earth's core or very close to it as shown by the lava.
Doesn't matter since that was the reason why the feat was accomplished. If they fought on the surface then nothing would have happened. It was plot device.

Onslaught manipulating abilities has nothing to do with his shell. Didn't he want Hulk to bust his shell anyway so that we can get out? Every hero who attack Onslaught was less or equal to High Herald.

His shell could be broken with Trans level power because Hulk did it. No other trans attacked Onslaught's shell at all.

give me the issue numbers to the feat about the being against the Celestials. I want to see what the hell you are talking about or if you are just making shit up.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk and those creatures were fighting in the core of the Earth. They made the mantle unstable. This is not shockwaves at all. It's a good feat but not even planetary at all.
Also one of those beings were actually fighting Hulk back and contributed to the showing.

This scan alone shows Hulk's blow to the face causes an underwater quake, while an uppercut causes volcanic eruptions.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173017/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_012.jpg.html

I agree their proximity to the earth's core contributed to the damage however.

All in all it's enough to categorize it as "planetary strength" imo.

Originally posted by h1a8
It was shown, they were in the Earth's core or very close to it as shown by the lava.
Doesn't matter since that was the reason why the feat was accomplished. If they fought on the surface then nothing would have happened. It was plot device.

Onslaught manipulating abilities has nothing to do with his shell. Didn't he want Hulk to bust his shell anyway so that we can get out? Every hero who attack Onslaught was less or equal to High Herald.

His shell could be broken with Trans level power because Hulk did it. No other trans attacked Onslaught's shell at all.

give me the issue numbers to the feat about the being against the Celestials. I want to see what the hell you are talking about or if you are just making shit up.

Lava doesn't mean they were in earths core. Crazy. And Hulk didn't hit the planet at all when he was punching. His punches was hitting the person the the shockwaves generated from those punches was causing the planet to go haywire.

Prove that a trans can break it or be quiet.

I'm not giving you anything. Ask Bran to give it to you since he brought it up.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sure there were some shockwaves involved. I mean they're not exactly punching down on the earth to cause these world wide quakes.

This scan alone shows Hulk's blow to the face causes an underwater quake, while an uppercut causes volcanic eruptions.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173017/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_012.jpg.html

I agree their proximity to the earth's core contributed to the damage however.

All in all it's enough to categorize it as "planetary strength" imo.

I disagree. The Earth's mantle is very delicate and land masses are shifting and floating on liquid lava as we speak. Any type of mountain busting force could create vast Earthquakes across the Earth. Remember they were connected to the Earth (feet and body was touching it).
Hell a nuke place in the right spot could do some major damage to parts of the Earth.

It would take an astronomical amount of nukes to completely destroy a mountain. Yet the same amount of nukes would devastate the Earth if placed near the core of the planet. So again, Hulk was hitting with at most mountain busting force, which is very impressive.

Lastly, planetary force is force to move a planet against it's own weight or more or destroy it directly, not destroy it indirectly. It takes far less force to destroy a planet directly than to lift it against it's weight.

Originally posted by carver9
Lava doesn't mean they were in earths core. Crazy. And Hulk didn't hit the planet at all when he was punching. His punches was hitting the person the the shockwaves generated from those punches was causing the planet to go haywire.

Prove that a trans can break it or be quiet.

I'm not giving you anything. Ask Bran to give it to you since he brought it up.

I said they were in the core or close to it. Otherwise lava and shit wouldn't have been seen. I know this. They were connected to the Earth. So hitting a being would transfer energy directly (not indirectly) into the Earth. It's like a baseball jamming the batter and hitting the bat near the middle. The energy is transferred into the bat and then into the batters hands causing much pain.

So you concede the feat cause you haven't even seen it yourself.

Originally posted by carver9
LIES

Pure, unadulterated, truth!

Prove how my list is flawed, Gammite!

Originally posted by h1a8
I said they were in the core or close to it. Otherwise lava and shit wouldn't have been seen. I know this. They were connected to the Earth. So hitting a being would transfer energy directly (not indirectly) into the Earth. It's like a baseball jamming the batter and hitting the bat near the middle. The energy is transferred into the bat and then into the batters hands causing much pain.

So you concede the feat cause you haven't even seen it yourself.

Lava doesn't mean they are in the Earth's core.

I have seen it since I know of two fts that is similar to what he is talking about. I'm just not wasting the time providing a scan to someone that marks everything as PIS except characters you like. Stop asking for it.

Originally posted by carver9
Lava doesn't mean they are in the Earth's core.

I have seen it since I know of two fts that is similar to what he is talking about. I'm just not wasting the time providing a scan to someone that marks everything as PIS except characters you like. Stop asking for it.

Then the feats don't count. I don't really care. In my mind, it didn't happen, which is all that matters. That's the end of that.

Originally posted by Supermex
Who wins?
No prep..
No B.F.R. lol
Dcnu..

This a weight lifting competition..
Rank in order you think they would finish from 1 being the strongest to 8 being the weakest in the strength department.

In no real order, here are the competitors..

Shazam
Hyperion
Superman
Blue Marvel
Wonder Woman
Hulk
M.Manhunter
Thor

If u think I missed someone that you think is stronger than any of the guys I posted go ahead and rank where u feel they fall in the list, but they can't exceed the high herald tier in order to qualify for the start of competition..

Superman
Hulk
Thor
Blue Marvel/Hyperion
Shazam/WonderWoman
Manjobber

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman
Hulk
Thor
Blue Marvel/Hyperion
Shazam/WonderWoman
Manjobber

Interesting turn...👆

Originally posted by h1a8
Unless you are in a volcano then being deep in Earth were there is liquid lava means that you are below the mantle and within the core. Look it up.

Then the feats don't count. I don't really care. In my mind, it didn't happen, which is all that matters. That's the end of that.

Never stated they were in the core.

Doesn't matter if you count the ft or not. You've denied every showing concerning Thor. No matter what evidence is given to you. Same with Thanos and other Marvel characters. I'm not about to sit here and present you with fts that you will not accept anyways. You already marked the showings that was brought up with the Hulk as PIS. Why feed you more PIS showings. Move on and troll someone else.

Sun God
Hulk
Superman/Hyperion
Thor/Blue Marvel/Shazam
Wonder Woman
M. Manhunter