Originally posted by KazenjiCaeser's one hell of a fighter. He was the alpha because they admired his strength. He seemed impressive in that movie, and could take some damage, not to mention put it out. The apes in that movie were all above humans pretty comfortably. They seemed to be one-shotting them left and right, and were around the same size (if not a few inches shorter). I could see Caeser winning here.
Haven't seen the new apes movie, Has Ceaser gotten since Dawn?
Originally posted by KingD19
Chimps are like 2-3x humans in real life. And these seem further enhanced. Caesar should be above Bane comfortably.
Bane is much stronger than 2-3x human male average.
When Caesar attacked that guy in the first movie, he beat him down, but he wasn't even knocked out. Bane would have floored him with one punch, and he'd have probably had to go to the hospital.
I haven't seen the second movie, but using feats from just the first one? Bane knocks Caesar out.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Bane is much stronger than 2-3x human male average.When Caesar attacked that guy in the first movie, he beat him down, but he wasn't even knocked out. Bane would have floored him with one punch, and he'd have probably had to go to the hospital.
I haven't seen the second movie, but using feats from just the first one? Bane knocks Caesar out.
Yup. That's why I specified it's Ceasar from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, because his version from Rise didn't really have that impressive fight feats.
Haven't seen DotPotA yet so can't comment on the fight. Caesar is smarter than Bane though going from RotPotA and chimps have notoriously strong skulls, so it's not looking good for Bane, imo.
Chimps are also above 2-3x strength compared to humans. Chimps are designed biologically for maximum muscle output; estimates usually run around x4 average; some as high as x8 with some showings/testing; those being outliers or outright BS.
Originally posted by NemeBroWatch the new movie. Caesar has really stepped it up in the 10 years that passed.
Bane is much stronger than 2-3x human male average.When Caesar attacked that guy in the first movie, he beat him down, but he wasn't even knocked out. Bane would have floored him with one punch, and he'd have probably had to go to the hospital.
I haven't seen the second movie, but using feats from just the first one? Bane knocks Caesar out.
Bane would get destroyed. The only way Bane would be able to beat Ceasar is if he were able to get him into a submission hold. When Ceasar fights he uses is arms to launch his entire body weight into his enemies. For as strong as Bane is, a four hundred pound, Ape throwing itself at him is going to knock him over. Fighting skill means dick when one is fighting a wild animal. Without a weapon of anykind, Bane loses quickly
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxI seriously doubt Caesar is four hundred pounds. That would make him heavier than any chimpanzee that has ever lived that I've heard of. Unless Will is extremely strong (Being that he could lift him), there's no way Caesar is that ****ing heavy dude.
Bane would get destroyed. The only way Bane would be able to beat Ceasar is if he were able to get him into a submission hold. When Ceasar fights he uses is arms to launch his entire body weight into his enemies. For as strong as Bane is, a four hundred pound, Ape throwing itself at him is going to knock him over. Fighting skill means dick when one is fighting a wild animal. Without a weapon of anykind, Bane loses quickly
That would be a bit on the low end. A normal gorilla weighs around 600 lbs. A normal chimp weighs around 100 lbs. Despite low weight and size, they are stupid strong.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2009/02/how_strong_is_a_chimpanzee.html
Imagine that scaled up to a chimp the size of Caesar. The chimps in that movie were about the same size as humans, except stalkier. I'm assuming that's muscle mass. If a female chimp in real life can pull around 1300 lbs, I cant imagine the power these chimps have. It's no wonder they were oneshotting and beating humans to death left and right. I give this fight comfortably to Caesar.
Your right, it is. I was mostly scanning around for numbers. I should have read through. For what its worth, it does still state that chimps are stronger than humans though, due to muscle structure. "A chimpanzee had, pound for pound, as much as twice the strength of a human when it came to pulling weights." Twice as strong isn't bad, but I'll try to find some actual numbers.