Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What final amp? If you seriously think Hulk can beat, (or even put up much of a fight for that matter) Thor amped 20x, then you are obviously mentally ill and or deficient.
Read the comic, the final amp when he about breaks the planet in half with one foot step. Watch it with the name calling hombre.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
First off, Thor wasn't actually in Warriors Madness when he fought Young Maestro, Thor has never actually achieved WM on panel. The idea of Thor amped 10x is completely speculative, nevermind 20x. In addition to that, baseline Thor has already matched WBH's feats to a certain extent.
Lol...are you sure buddy because as shown here, it CLEARLY states he is in Warrior Madness.
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media-full/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/10.jpg.html
When has Thor melted nearby Heralds with the shockwaves of his blow? Cracking a moon and planet is fine (cracking) but performing what Hulk did is on a different level.
It says yeah, but when a big plot point of the story being that Thor isn't actually in WM, it'd probably be good not to spoil that right away.
Thor didn't crack a moon and a planet. It says clear as day in the narration that planets were destroyed, and you can see a planet clearly being blown up. Just because we don't have a street level view of it happening, due to it not being overly important to the plot doesn't make any less valid than Hulk's showing.
And if there were a bunch of cannon fodder around that couldn't survive planetary destruction, then yeah I'm sure they'd have been vaporized too. But Thor doesn't roll that way, if there's innocents around, he'll go and fix they're planet before it's destroyed. 😉
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
It says yeah, but when a big plot point of the story being that Thor isn't actually in WM, it'd probably be good not to spoil that right away.Thor didn't crack a moon and a planet. It says clear as day in the narration that planets were destroyed, and you can see a planet clearly being blown up. Just because we don't have a street level view of it happening, due to it not being overly important to the plot doesn't make any less valid than Hulk's showing.
And if there were a bunch of cannon fodder around that couldn't survive planetary destruction, then yeah I'm sure they'd have been vaporized too. But Thor doesn't roll that way, if there's innocents around, he'll go and fix they're planet before it's destroyed. 😉
It tells you right there in the scan that I posted that he was in Warrior Madness. It doesnt matter if you like it or not, he was in Warrior Madness.
Show me the scan of a Planet blowing up.
Lol at canon fodder. So you're telling me that Thor can punch Odin so hard that if Colossus was in the vicinity, he would melt (the people that Hulk melted are above Colossus, hell, they are above Namor). Post a scan proving this.
Originally posted by carver9
So you're telling me that Thor can punch Odin so hard that if Colossus was in the vicinity, he would melt (the people that Hulk melted are above Colossus, hell, they are above Namor).
Here is the problem I've always had with that side of the feat:
All that incident really proves is that the people, who died during the explosion in the Dark Dimension don't have planetary level durability.
Not all heralds have the same durability. We all know that.
I've seen people arguing that because Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom died in the explosion, Thor and other high heralds would die as well.
Do Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom have planetary level durability? I'm not so sure if they have. But we know that heralds like Thor have insane durability feats, which are on a planetary scale.
I'm not saying that a regular Thor can beat World Breaker Hulk. He can't of course. But a regular Thor won't die from WB Hulk's Thunderclap alone.
Take the regular Thor and amplify his base strength with a ton of upgrades and you may even have a decent fight.
Originally posted by carver9
It tells you right there in the scan that I posted that he was in Warrior Madness. It doesnt matter if you like it or not, he was in Warrior Madness.Show me the scan of a Planet blowing up.
Lol at canon fodder. So you're telling me that Thor can punch Odin so hard that if Colossus was in the vicinity, he would melt (the people that Hulk melted are above Colossus, hell, they are above Namor). Post a scan proving this.
I realize it says that he's in Warrior's Madness, but a big twist in the whole insane Thor thing was that he wasn't really in a state of true Warrior's Madness and that he wasn't in fact beyond saving. They can't go and blab that shit out right away.
I don't need to post the scan of Thor fight Gorr, it's been posted here a dozen times and I know you've seen it.
I'd say it's fairly obvious that if Thor hit Odin hard enough to destroy a planet from the shockwave that Colossus would die. I have no idea why you felt the need to ask that...
@invoking Warrior's Madness
Thor has indeed tried to enter WM, but he was unable to, for whatever that's worth.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Here is the problem I've always had with that side of the feat:All that incident really proves is that the people, who died during the explosion in the Dark Dimension don't have planetary level durability.
Not all heralds have the same durability. We all know that.I've seen people arguing that because Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom died in the explosion, Thor and other high heralds would die as well.
Do Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom have planetary level durability? I'm not so sure if they have. But we know that heralds like Thor have insane durability feats, which are on a planetary scale.I'm not saying that a regular Thor can beat World Breaker Hulk. He can't of course. But a regular Thor won't die from WB Hulk's Thunderclap alone.
Take the regular Thor and amplify his base strength with a ton of upgrades and you may even have a decent fight.
Or that the blast was 'over' planetary since Hulk and Betty was cloud height when it happened and not on the planet when they destroy the planet, it also annihilated the nearby moon, and again, this happened because 2 people decided to punch each other in the face. You'll probably have an argument if the two actually punched at the planet but that's not what happened.
Also, there are a lot of Heralds that doesn't have planetary fts which is the reason we base a lot of showings off of comparisons against other Heralds.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Here is the problem I've always had with that side of the feat:All that incident really proves is that the people, who died during the explosion in the Dark Dimension don't have planetary level durability.
Not all heralds have the same durability. We all know that.I've seen people arguing that because Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom died in the explosion, Thor and other high heralds would die as well.
Do Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom have planetary level durability? I'm not so sure if they have. But we know that heralds like Thor have insane durability feats, which are on a planetary scale.I'm not saying that a regular Thor can beat World Breaker Hulk. He can't of course. But a regular Thor won't die from WB Hulk's Thunderclap alone.
Take the regular Thor and amplify his base strength with a ton of upgrades and you may even have a decent fight.
i thought carver was on your ignore list
Originally posted by carver9
Or that the blast was 'over' planetary since Hulk and Betty was cloud height when it happened and not on the planet when they destroy the planet, it also annihilated the nearby moon, and again, this happened because 2 people decided to punch each other in the face. You'll probably have an argument if the two actually punched at the planet but that's not what happened.Also, there are a lot of Heralds that doesn't have planetary fts which is the reason we base a lot of showings off of comparisons against other Heralds.
A Nuke explodes over the ground before it hits it, this way the force of destruction is bigger, just sayin.
