Sam Wilson the new Captain America

Started by riv66723 pages

Exactly. In continuity its an homage thing, in RL its creative basically giving it one more try again, despite the less than successful tenures Eternal Idol pointed out.

I just dont feel the wings and shield mesh very well visually, i mean maybe they can work but that pic is just dumb.

I don't mind it as long as the stories are good. We all know Rogers and Thor will return to status quo within a year or so. I get the pc thing and all, but I wish they would focus on already established characters. I would love to see a more prominent role by characters like Captain Marvel(Danvers) or Blue Marvel within Marvel U.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
I just dont feel the wings and shield mesh very well visually, i mean maybe they can work but that pic is just dumb.

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Things like this make me wonder just how these decisions get made. On one hand if someone seriously suggested this as an interesting, worthwhile or original idea, and worse, the editorial crew thought so too, then things are seriously wrong at Marvel. On the other hand, if it's all being done as a deliberate PC marketing/relaunch ploy and that's the only angle Marvel care about anymore, then that's pretty sad for Marvel too.

Either way it's a bad idea turning Falcon into a lame second rate Captain America/Battlestar-with-wings mess. If you can't make a character popular on their own then give it up. Don't turn them into a new version of some established character, the end result being both characters are messed up.

If DC can turn Aquaman around and actually get him some level of respect (and without making him the new Superman), Marvel should be able to do the same with some of their C-listers. Same goes for woman-Thor.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I'm getting pretty ****ing tired of all the identity-swapping going on between characters in the past ten years or so. It comes across as gimmicky and lazy. He looks like lame ass Battlestar.

Why not let Sam Wilson shine under his own identity as the Falcon? Let him prove he's a great leader as well, not just flying cannon fodder. His time as a less-effective Captain America will be swept under the rug and forgotten just as soon as Steve Rogers returns.

Wow I agree with all of that.

Originally posted by basilisk
Things like this make me wonder just how these decisions get made. On one hand if someone seriously suggested this as an interesting, worthwhile or original idea, and worse, the editorial crew thought so too, then things are seriously wrong at Marvel. On the other hand, if it's all being done as a deliberate PC marketing/relaunch ploy and that's the only angle Marvel care about anymore, then that's pretty sad for Marvel too.

Either way it's a bad idea turning Falcon into a lame second rate Captain America/Battlestar-with-wings mess. If you can't make a character popular on their own then give it up. Don't turn them into a new version of some established character, the end result being both characters are messed up.

If DC can turn Aquaman around and actually get him some level of respect (and without making him the new Superman), Marvel should be able to do the same with some of their C-listers. Same goes for woman-Thor.

*round of applause*

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea it does, but do you think they're doing it because it makes sense or because it's PC?
Neither.

It's banking off of the movies.

Originally posted by Kazenji
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I'd like Falcon to have the hard light shield instead, also when did Sam become capable of wielding the shield effectively.

More importantly, how will he use the shield while flying? If he tries to block midflight, he might just crash into a wall.

Was he one of the guys that once gave throwing the shield a try when Hawkeye managed it once?
If he didnt, then a throw/bounce/fly combo might be kinda cool to see...

As for getting hit while flying, the shield absorbs impacts. Otherwise Cap'd be thrown all over the place, too.

Originally posted by -K-M-
This is actually reasonable and has history. Not the first time someone else took up the mantle.

The thor change is just silly.

Because no one has ever taken over for Thor before, right?

Eric Masterson never existed, I guess

Masterson was manly though. That name, that jacket, that beard, that phallic symbol.
Whats a woman to do with a big ol' phallic symbol like that???

Again, both Bucky and Sam are within reason the best possible candidates for the Captain America mantle, arguably Sam is a more interesting take on the succesion thing, but Marvel is physically unable to make such change stick, which kind of ruins the whole concept.

Yes and no on ruination.
Its the how that can make or break a story. Watching characters rise to the occasion or fail despite trying can both be pretty fascinating.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Because no one has ever taken over for Thor before, right?

Eric Masterson never existed, I guess

Masteron was such a stroke of genius too right?

Now THAT comes down to a matter of opinion.

He was at least passable, and had some good moments

The character was a disaster, but he was in a lot of good stories.

Odd.

Odd opinions on your part.

Happens at the Oscars. How can the director of the best pucture not win best director?

Originally posted by riv6672
Odd opinions on your part.

Happens at the Oscars. How can the director of the best pucture not win best director?


How does that work actually?