Doom vs Kurse

Started by TheVaultDweller2 pages
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yea, it would be like a professional bodybuilder trying to fight a professional boxer, the body builder might be stronger in lifts, but the boxer is going to destroy him.

Not to mention Thing fights like a bit of an idiot. 😆

Hulk has shown the ability to use his surroundings to aid him, like in his fights against the army and Abomination in The Incredible Hulk. Thing just throws haymakers 99% of the time. The most imagination he has shown in a fight was breaking the hydrant during the fight with Doom, and only because Reed was directing him. Though I do think that in a straight up grapple, Thing would have the advantage.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Not to mention Thing fights like a bit of an idiot. 😆

Hulk has shown the ability to use his surroundings to aid him, like in his fights against the army and Abomination in The Incredible Hulk. Thing just throws haymakers 99% of the time. The most imagination he has shown in a fight was breaking the hydrant during the fight with Doom, and only because Reed was directing him. Though I do think that in a straight up grapple, Thing would have the advantage.

Hey cmon he's got a rock for a brain😂

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Hey cmon he's got a rock for a brain😂

Good point. 😆

He did throw that car at Doom though. Not that it helped him much. So hey ho, that 1% was useless. It's sad that his most creative use of his powers was for comedic purposes, when he turned Johnny's car into a metal scrap ball.

why was doom absurdly durable in the movies?

anyway, I don't think kurse would k.o. doom easily but doom doesn't have what it takes to put kurse down. long fight

kurse would win in a straight up, Doom has a chance but it really would depend on their surroundings. Dooms durability proves he has a incredible oppitunity but if Kurse is using BlackHole grenades and can actually trick Victor then he wins

The Thing was lifting close to 2000 tons? WTF? That dude needs to be in waaaay more fights on this forum. Holy shit, what a monster. And just because he managed to fight a dude like than 1 on 1 and do great, I'm gonna give this fight to Doom.

Doom.
As some said Thing has the most impressive strenght feat in Marvel movieverse and Victor easily whooped him.

Originally posted by Estacado
Doom.
As some said Thing has the most impressive strenght feat in Marvel movieverse and Victor easily whooped him.

Well yeah if it's just a strength feat you're looking for. But Kurse completely dominated Thor, Thor who matched the Hulk, and that's a far better fighting feat than either Doom or Thing has ever shown.

And Kurse walks all over Asgardians, and the average Asgardian is strong enough to throw cars.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well yeah if it's just a strength feat you're looking for. But Kurse completely dominated Thor, Thor who matched the Hulk, and that's a far better fighting feat than either Doom or Thing has ever shown.

And Kurse walks all over Asgardians, and the average Asgardian is strong enough to throw cars.

True, but the point is that it should be regarded as a durability feat for Doom. He tanked punches from someone who, by screen feats, is easily the most physically strong character shown in Marvel movies. Which is why I don't know if Kurse can seriously do any damage to him. Only way I personally see Kurse ending him is via somehow using a black hole grenade against him. I see the average Asgardian getting their asses handed to them by either Doom or Thing with little trouble.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
True, but the point is that it should be regarded as a durability feat for Doom. He tanked punches from someone who, by screen feats, is easily the most physically strong character shown in Marvel movies. Which is why I don't know if Kurse can seriously do any damage to him. Only way I personally see Kurse ending him is via somehow using a black hole grenade against him. I see the average Asgardian getting their asses handed to them by either Doom or Thing with little trouble.

Thing has impressive lifting feats but I don't recall him having that many impressive striking/punching feats. Not that I'm saying he's a weak striker, just that we can't automatically assume that since he carried the most weight then he can automatically hit harder than other MCU characters.

For example, he carried more weight than Thor but does he hit harder with his fists than Thor can with Mjolnir?

Maybe, maybe not. But considering we haven't seen Kurse KO'd or even seriously hurt then there's also no proof that Doom can hurt Kurse.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thing has impressive lifting feats but I don't recall him having that many impressive striking/punching feats. Not that I'm saying he's a weak striker, just that we can't automatically assume that since he carried the most weight then he can automatically hit harder than other MCU characters.

For example, he carried more weight than Thor but does he hit harder with his fists than Thor can with Mjolnir?

Maybe, maybe not. But considering we haven't seen Kurse KO'd or even seriously hurt then there's also no proof that Doom can hurt Kurse.

Exactly, we don't know whether Doom could hurt Kurse. In fact, it is doubtful. Hence my very first post in this thread:

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Can either of these two even KO each other?

Doom took Johnny's nova flame, and didn't even seem all that bothered by it. It was being rapidly cooled that locked his joints into place. And when they were measuring Johnny's flames, he was approaching Sun temperatures before they had to extinguish him. No one stopped him from pushing his limits against Doom, so those flames were probably much hotter. As for Kurse, the guy beasted through all the Asgardians that got in his way, including Thor, so I don't think there is much of a chance of Doom hurting him in any meaningful way.

I can see Kurse smacking Doom around the whole day, because he has a clear strength advantage, but can he actually KO him for a win?

I don't see either of these two being able to put the other one down, barring use of the black hole grenade. And that could possibly go either way, considering it was Loki's use of Kurse's own grenade that killed him. Thing Doom has going for him is range. Chances are that if Kurse tries to throw the grenade at Doom, he could lightning blast it out of the air. Doom's electricity might not be quite up there with Thor's best feats, but it is still quite strong. Casual blasts were blowing up police cars etc.

Where is the coward who said Kurse would destroy Doom and Abomination without effort?