Originally posted by dadudemonThis. This thread has been done three times now. Ozy wins.
This thread has been done.Strength is comparable but Ozy if far faster and far more skilled.
There is no contest. Ozy wins 10 out of 10 times.
Cap would struggle to win any against Night Owl or Rorschach much less Ozy.
Originally posted by dadudemonNah, I'd have to watch the movies again to remember every showing of durability Cap had and I just don't really feel like doing that. As you've said in the past: Do your own work. 🙂 I'll stick to the durability feat that matters (Aka, the one where Cap endures an attack beyond Ozymandias' means to replicate).
These are not antics. If you want to convince me of your arguments, tell me about the times Steve Rogers was injured and the conditions surrounding them...if any exist.It is pretty simple, really.
Also I don't want to convince you of anything. There's nothing to convince. 👆
Cap's fallen several hundred feet without so much as a bruise.
Also he took repeated full force punches to the face from Winter Soldier's bionic arm, while he was fully mounted. The same arm that dug furrows in concrete, ripped a car door clean off it's hinges, ripped an entire steering column out of a car, and threw Cap's shield hard enough to impale it halfway into a van. The worst he got from that was the skin on the bridge of his nose split open.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Nah, I'd have to watch the movies again to remember every showing of durability Cap had
No you wouldn't. You'd just have to list the injuries and the circumstances that surrounded them (again, if they exist).
Originally posted by NemeBro
As you've said in the past: Do your own work. 🙂
That's not how that works. I cannot easily find these feats you speak of (I don't torrent movies). They are also not posted in this thread.
Originally posted by KingD19
Cap's fallen several hundred feet without so much as a bruise.Also he took repeated full force punches to the face from Winter Soldier's bionic arm, while he was fully mounted. The same arm that dug furrows in concrete, ripped a car door clean off it's hinges, ripped an entire steering column out of a car, and threw Cap's shield hard enough to impale it halfway into a van. The worst he got from that was the skin on the bridge of his nose split open.
Thanks. 👆
I'll have to take a look at how Steve got a bloody nose to see how it fits into these vs. threads.
Originally posted by carver9
Does Cap have any showings that proves he could hit Ozy? The skill difference is significant imo. Huge edge to Ozy. So this is basically speed and skill vs durability.
Yes, that's what I thought. And Ozy has durability in spades, as well.
Skull was Steve's "equal" but did Skull ever injure Steve in the first film? If he didn't, despite the fight they had, then I don't see Ozy injuring Steve, as well. If Skull did, yes, this easily goes to Ozy.
Originally posted by dadudemonSeeing as how I don't have an eidetic memory and can't recall a single time he was injured enough to be incapacitated (I say this because the laser which shot him out of a window and onto a car did hurt him, but he got back up and continued fighting) yeah, I really would.
No you wouldn't. You'd just have to list the injuries and the circumstances that surrounded them (again, if they exist).
Originally posted by NemeBro
Seeing as how I don't have an eidetic memory and can't recall a single time he was injured enough to be incapacitated (I say this because the laser which shot him out of a window and onto a car did hurt him, but he got back up and continued fighting) yeah, I really would.
The laser just knocked him down, it was a bomb that knocked him out the window.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Seeing as how I don't have an eidetic memory and can't recall a single time he was injured enough to be incapacitated (I say this because the laser which shot him out of a window and onto a car did hurt him, but he got back up and continued fighting) yeah, I really would.
Okay, so you don't know. No big deal. King seems to have the expert stuff covered. 🙂
Originally posted by KingD19
Skull didn't hurt him I don't believe.
I don't remember him hurting Cap, either.
Originally posted by KingD19
And the speed at which Soldier and Steve were having that knife fight seems to be faster than anything in Watchmen.
The more I hear/read about this new Cap film, the better it sounds. Is it available on Blu Ray in September. I have to wait that long to see it. 🙁
Why are people ignoring that Dr. M was the only one in that universe with legit super powers.
Ozy was faster and stronger than any of the watchmen except Manhattan. That still doesn't mean he can take out someone with actual super powers like Cap. Even if (debatable) Ozy is more skilled than Cap. Cap still is stronger, more durable, has a healing factor, wont get tiered cause of super stamina, enhanced reflexes, etc.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Why are people ignoring that Dr. M was the only one in that universe with legit super powers.Ozy was faster and stronger than any of the watchmen except Manhattan. That still doesn't mean he can take out someone with actual super powers like Cap. Even if (debatable) Ozy is more skilled than Cap. Cap still is stronger, more durable, has a healing factor, wont get tiered cause of super stamina, enhanced reflexes, etc.
The Watchmen, while supposed to be just Peak Human, at best, actually have feats that are well into the Superhuman.
Basically, within their universe, sure, they may just be peak humans. However, in our universe, they would be superhumans: especially Ozy's feats of speed and strength.
From what I can tell, Captain does not have strength feats that compare to Ozy's best.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The Watchmen, while supposed to be just Peak Human, at best, actually have feats that are well into the Superhuman.Basically, within their universe, sure, they may just be peak humans. However, in our universe, they would be superhumans: especially Ozy's feats of speed and strength.
From what I can tell, Captain does not have strength feats that compare to Ozy's best.
Like what feats? name them?