Originally posted by quanchi112
Jango killing the Jedi and order 66.😂
You both don’t like Star Wars and seemingly know nothing of it, a bad combo, imo.
Cole Trebor was able to block several shots before he was overwhelmed. He was more of a mediator than a fighter and Jedi abilities scale with the power of the user. Why when Jango tried that same exact tactic against Mace a few minutes later, Jango ended up dead.
Order 66 was a surprise attack from a trusted ally who had a super-massive numbers advantage and it was during a time when the dark side was “clouding” everything. We see Ki-Adi-Mundi (a powerful Jedi) turn around and block multiple shots from multiple opponents before he is overwhelmed.
Those same stipulation don't apply to this fight. This is why you fail here.
Originally posted by RobtardI like Star Wars but as of yet haven't loved it. That is neither here nor there and you always bring your personal bias to muddy the facts.
You both don’t like Star Wars and seemingly know nothing of it, a bad combo, imo.Cole Trebor was able to block several shots before he was overwhelmed. He was more of a mediator than a fighter and Jedi abilities scale with the power of the user. Why when Jango tried that same exact tactic against Mace a few minutes later, Jango ended up dead.
Order 66 was a surprise attack from a trusted ally who had a super-massive numbers advantage and it was during a time when the dark side was “clouding” everything. We see Ki-Adi-Mundi (a powerful Jedi) turn around and block multiple shots from multiple opponents before he is overwhelmed.
Those same stipulation don't apply to this fight. This is why you fail here.
Cole was overwhelmed as was another Jedi one on one. Windu wasn't able to flee until after Jango fired his flame thrower. Windu also killed him after the beast destroyed his jet pack. Context.
Clouding everything doesn't mean clouding precog in combat. If you feel so back your claim with the vague statement.
Jango didn't need to cloud any jedis vision both against Obi or against the Jedi he killed.
When the next Star Wars comes out and those without force powers take on Jedi I will rub it in.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I like Star Wars but as of yet haven't loved it. That is neither here nor there and you always bring your personal bias to muddy the facts.Cole was overwhelmed as was another Jedi one on one. Windu wasn't able to flee until after Jango fired his flame thrower. Windu also killed him after the beast destroyed his jet pack. Context.
Clouding everything doesn't mean clouding precog in combat. If you feel so back your claim with the vague statement.
Jango didn't need to cloud any jedis vision both against Obi or against the Jedi he killed.
When the next Star Wars comes out and those without force powers take on Jedi I will rub it in.
"irony" Anyways.
Context: Jango stood still and shot straight at Coleman just the same he did with Mace. He was able to overwhelm Coleman, but not Mace. Jedi powers scale with the user. Context.
That was the whole premise of the prequels and a reason why Palpatine was able to do what he did. The Darkside was backing him.
Jango didn't kill Obi. Jango needed his clone's help and the Slave 1 blasting away to escape.
Your insistence that precog is worthless, despite the numerous showings that it does work is just your silly tactics and it's your failing when you refuse to listen to facts.
Originally posted by RobtardDue to superior skill by Windu and the fact his fact no longer worked so he couldn't create more distance between the two. Precog against someone without precog you tout as a no contest. Not the case at all.
"irony" Anyways.Context: Jango stood still and shot straight at Coleman just the same he did with Mace. He was able to overwhelm Coleman, but not Mace. Jedi powers scale with the user. Context.
That was the whole premise of the prequels and a reason why Palpatine was able to do what he did. The Darkside was backing him.
Jango didn't kill Obi. Jango needed his clone's help and the Slave 1 blasting away to escape.
Your insistence that precog is worthless, despite the numerous showings that it does work is just your silly tactics and it's your failing when you refuse to listen
The Darksied made his identity and actions a secret but that had nothing to do with precog in battle. Windu successfully defeated him, sport.
If Obi had precog that attack shouldn't have been a surprise. Precog has always been a fanboys best friend without any real proof just saying precog.
I don't say it is worthless but acting like it is an autowin against a highly skilled and quick opponent is fanboyism.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to superior skill by Windu and the fact his fact no longer worked so he couldn't create more distance between the two. Precog against someone without precog you tout as a no contest. Not the case at all.The Darksied made his identity and actions a secret but that had nothing to do with precog in battle. Windu successfully defeated him, sport.
If Obi had precog that attack shouldn't have been a surprise. Precog has always been a fanboys best friend without any real proof just saying precog.
I don't say it is worthless but acting like it is an autowin against a highly skilled and quick opponent is fanboyism.
"His fact no longer worked" You need to slow down.
Fact: Jango had more distance and time shooting against Mace than he did Coleman, so there goes your stance. Fact.
Fact: Because Windu is one of the most powerful Jedi duelist (this is implied in Ep2). Fact.
Fact: Obi successfully rolled out of the way before the Slave 1's blasters obliterated him. Fact.
Fact: You continually downplay Force-precog as being worthless. You just want to rant and not listen to reason; that's your failing, not mine. Fact.
Originally posted by RobtardJetpack. Oh no one typo. You need to actually be knowledgable about the Star Wars universe.
"His fact no longer worked" You need to slow down.Fact: Jango had more distance and time shooting against Mace than he did Coleman, so there goes your stance. Fact.
Fact: Because Windu is one of the most powerful Jedi duelist (this is implied in Ep2). Fact.
Fact: Obi successfully rolled out of the way before the Slave 1's blasters obliterated him. Fact.
Fact: You continually downplay Force-precog as being worthless. You just want to rant and not listen to reason; that's your failing, not mine. Fact.
Windu is far better skilled than the other bum. That is why Windu won and the fact Jango's equipment did not work.
He is greater skilled than the other guy. That is why he won. The other bum would decap Jango just the same save his skills aren't on par with Windu's.
No, I never said it is worthless but it isn't an auto win nor can you cite the difference between precog and skill. We see the Jedi go down all the time yet you ignore it all due to fanboyism.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Jetpack. Oh no one typo. You need to actually be knowledgable about the Star Wars universe.Windu is far better skilled than the other bum. That is why Windu won and the fact Jango's equipment did not work.
He is greater skilled than the other guy. That is why he won. The other bum would decap Jango just the same save his skills aren't on par with Windu's.
No, I never said it is worthless but it isn't an auto win nor can you cite the difference between precog and skill. We see the Jedi go down all the time yet you ignore it all due to fanboyism.
"irony" X2
Fact: Repeat: Jango didn't use his jetpack to help him take out Coleman. Jango used the same tactic on both Jedi, stand still and shoot.
Fact: Both Jango and Mace employed precog to block Jango's blaster fire. Mace's was just better and wasn't overwhelmed.
Strawman tactics now. Your arrogance doesn't allow you to listen to reason. That's your failing; not mine. You lost this thread.
Originally posted by RobtardIrony x3.
"irony" X2Fact: Repeat: Jango didn't use his jetpack to help him take out Coleman. Jango used the same tactic on both Jedi, stand still and shoot.
Fact: Both Jango and Mace employed precog to block Jango's blaster fire. Mace's was just better and wasn't overwhelmed.
Strawman tactics now. Your arrogance doesn't allow you to listen to reason. That's your failing; not mine. You lost this thread.
He didn't have to since he took him out quickly but if a Jedi closes the distance he needs to create separation.
They used their reflexes.
Jango blocked Jango's own blaster fire ? Slow down, ese.
I won this thread and you can't prove a single showing is due to precog. Your debating is as embarrassing as your appearance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Irony x3.He didn't have to since he took him out quickly but if a Jedi closes the distance he needs to create separation.
They used their reflexes.
Jango blocked Jango's own blaster fire ? Slow down, ese.
I won this thread and you can't prove a single showing is due to precog.
Your debating is as embarrassing as your appearance.
Mimicking me is flattering.
Keep ignoring than Jango tried to take out Mace in the same exact fashion as he did Coleman.
You seem confused again.
And now back to implying that Jedi don't use precog. Same silly game.
"irony".
Originally posted by RobtardI am mocking you and by now I would sincerely hope you'd know the difference.
Mimicking me is flattering.Keep ignoring than Jango tried to take out Mace in the same exact fashion as he did Coleman.
You seem confused again.
And now back to implying that Jedi don't use precog. Same silly game.
"irony".
I didn't ignore that. The reason he couldn't take out Windu the same is due to Windu's far greater skill with a saber.
Not at all.
They use it but you need to cite proof as to when they have used it in battle.
Stupidity.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am mocking you and by now I would sincerely hope you'd know the difference.I didn't ignore that. The reason he couldn't take out Windu the same is due to Windu's far greater skill with a saber.
Not at all.
They use it but you need to cite proof as to when they have used it in battle.
Stupidity.
"irony"
Precog is what allows Jedi to block blaster fire along with Force-enhanced reflexes. This is explained in Ep1.
Confused, are you.
Every battle where they successfully block blaster fire.
"irony" X2