Unless Xavier gets a lot of time training to use the gems to their fullest potential, Thanos curbstomps him.
Gems aren't going to be an automatic I-Win button unless the user knows what he/she is doing with them.
If Xavier were just simply handed the gems and told to go kill Thanos, I highly doubt he'd know how to use them properly.
I think he could do better then Drax and Thor did one was retarded the other was on a rampage Charles is very smart I think he could adapt quick enough to beat Thanos. With the Gem he would have Unlimited Stamina Strength and Durability plus it would or should increase his telepathic powers.
Power Gem- Unlimited physical strength, endurance, and energy manipulation
Why wouldn't Xavier automatically be haxx with the Mind Gem? I can see an experience argument being used against him with the Power Gem. But come on. He's the most qualified person ever to tap into the full potential of the Mind Gem.
Yes, Thanos is a beast, but this is a smart guy with abstract universe-ending plot devices. X wins.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because we've seen a rival of Xavier with the Mind Gem in Moondragon and she couldn't read Thanos' mind
Originally posted by Estacado
And T has prep.
Fair enough. I'm not sure precisely what he'd do with prep, so long as we're not including artifact gathering. But the on-panel tp resistance, however illogical given the power of the gem, is worth considering.
There's also the Power Gem in the fight, though. With it alone, or with it amping/powering the mind gem, that's not the end of the discussion.
The amping the Mind Gem is a decent point to make. The problem with this is that a weakened Thanos needed to get hit with a Cosmic Cube for Moondragon, Mantis, and Cosmo to even get past his shields.
Then he broke out while in a complete mindlock from the three of them. Knocked them all out, calmed down, and then was put under again. Then he got angry enough in that same comic that they couldn't read his mind and he seemingly broke out of the psi lock again. And that's in a weakened state with basically nothing besides the initial shield that was broken that he never raised back up.
After he regained strength they couldn't do anything to him.
In addition to his other feats as well. Like Xavier/Magneto getting overwhelmed by a mental glance from Galactus, while Thanos was able to combat him. There's not much room for a telepath like Xavier to be able to accomplish anything against Thanos.
Then there's the power gem. Thanos has already damaged beings with the Power Gem who started off impossibly above Xavier physically and were both severely pissed off tapping into it before and during the battle.
Plus he's got tech that have one shotted Thor. He could just cloak and deliver endless cheapshots. Or he could bring his chair with him that had powerful blasts and shields as well as time manipulation tech.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because we've seen a rival of Xavier with the Mind Gem in Moondragon and she couldn't read Thanos' mind
She was unable to read his mind because Warlock with IG make all members of Infinity Watch immune to mind reading.
Later on is said Thanos was a secret member of Infinity Watch.
Power Gem- Unlimited physical strength, endurance, and energy manipulation [/B]
You forget the most important power: boost the power of the others gems.
Unless Xavier gets a lot of time training to use the gems to their fullest potential, Thanos curbstomps him.Gems aren't going to be an automatic I-Win button unless the user knows what he/she is doing with them.
If Xavier were just simply handed the gems and told to go kill Thanos, I highly doubt he'd know how to use them properly.
No but a normal human with the mind gem, without any training, was able to beat Xavier in a TP fight.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The amping the Mind Gem is a decent point to make. The problem with this is that a weakened Thanos needed to get hit with a Cosmic Cube for Moondragon, Mantis, and Cosmo to even get past his shields.
Then he broke out while in a complete mindlock from the three of them. Knocked them all out, calmed down, and then was put under again. Then he got angry enough in that same comic that they couldn't read his mind and he seemingly broke out of the psi lock again. And that's in a weakened state with basically nothing besides the initial shield that was broken that he never raised back up.
After he regained strength they couldn't do anything to him.In addition to his other feats as well. Like Xavier/Magneto getting overwhelmed by a mental glance from Galactus, while Thanos was able to combat him. There's not much room for a telepath like Xavier to be able to accomplish anything against Thanos.
Then there's the power gem. Thanos has already damaged beings with the Power Gem who started off impossibly above Xavier physically and were both severely pissed off tapping into it before and during the battle.
Plus he's got tech that have one shotted Thor. He could just cloak and deliver endless cheapshots. Or he could bring his chair with him that had powerful blasts and shields as well as time manipulation tech.
All good points, and it's dredging up cool memories from the many cosmic arcs I've read. This opinion remains at odds with what at least some of us want to believe: that the gems represent unmatchable potential in their particular sphere of influence when utilized properly. There shouldn't be a mental force in the Marvel U that can match a fully utilized Mind Gem, or physical force that matches the Power Gem for that matter. But other than feats with the combined Gauntlet, it's going to be hard to match your assessment feat for feat.