Mobile and Portable Electronics

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Oh, also

Originally posted by Inhuman

By the way, I read your review and liked it, Bardock.

Since I do not have a like button, I could not indicate that to you. So I must type this message so you can know. 🙁

Thank you. But it was mostly just what came to my mind in response to Asbestos asking. If I were to review it I'd try to put in some more effort.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Thank you. But it was mostly just what came to my mind in response to Asbestos asking. If I were to review it I'd try to put in some more effort.

Please do so. 🙂

Perhaps I will on my blog later.

Okay.

Oh no! The iPhone 6 Plus seems to be prone to bending.

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I need to demand a refund asap.
Probably gonna have to switch with Samsung Note 3 or 4.

Get the Note 4. Same power and features as the iPhone...but it actually has more power and features.

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-6-plus-specs-versus-samsung-galaxy-note-4-lg-g3/

Check that chart out.

If a great phone with great features that is not going to break when you drop it (or bend in your pocket) is what you want, the Note 4 is a better choice.

I personally wouldn't worry, I think this is another story blown out of proportion that won't matter in the long run (Antennagate, Apple Maps, etc.). Obviously they can bend with enough force applied, but it shouldn't be an issue in normal usage. If you think it may affect you though it's probably a good idea to get something else. (or get an Otter Box case). But yeah, play around with it for a bit see if you actually think it's a problem for you.

Specs are probably slightly better in some respects on the Note 4, but performance will likely be worse. And the Android ecosystem is just not as good imo.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I personally wouldn't worry, I think this is another story blown out of proportion that won't matter in the long run (Antennagate, Apple Maps, etc.). Obviously they can bend with enough force applied, but it shouldn't be an issue in normal usage. If you think it may affect you though it's probably a good idea to get something else. (or get an Otter Box case). But yeah, play around with it for a bit see if you actually think it's a problem for you.

Yes, all of the people b*tching about the iPhone bending should get an Otter-box case: that was my first thought with seeing the bendy stuff. People, like my wife, cannot stand the Android UI and love the shit out of the Apple UI. Those people should be highly satisfied with iOS 8 and the new iPhones.

Also, there are some people that do not like covers for their phones. They hate them. This is a dealbreaker for them (or they will just have to suck it up and buy something like an Otterbox cover). Apple really is going to lose some business over this and they probably already have.

But if power, features, and durability are what people look for in a phone, the Galaxy Note 4 is a better choice. My Note 3 is much more durable than these iPhone 6s and 6+s. Already, 2 screens have broken on them, here at work. Not sure why the screens are shattering so easily.

Edit -

CNET already did some durability testing with the new iPhone:

http://www.cnet.com/news/apples-touch-id-still-vulnerable-to-hack-security-researcher-finds/

edit 2 - But it looks like my coworkers suck, massively. Most tests are not cracking screens. 😐 My coworkers must be throwing them on the ground.

I agree with durability in some ways (although there are also tests that call the iPhone 6 one of the most durable phones out there, particular screen wise), like I said I don't think the Note 4 will actually be more powerful, and it obviously lacks a lot of iOS only features (and vice versa).

Also, I think you sent the wrong link.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Specs are probably slightly better in some respects on the Note 4, but performance will likely be worse. And the Android ecosystem is just not as good imo.

I think that performance will go to the Note 4 in performance tests (graphics, CPU, etc.). Usually, it is the best phone when released, by a significant margin. I do not see why they would not continue this trend.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Get the Note 4. Same power and features as the iPhone...but it actually has more power and features.

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-6-plus-specs-versus-samsung-galaxy-note-4-lg-g3/

Check that chart out.

If a great phone with great features that is not going to break when you drop it (or bend in your pocket) is what you want, the Note 4 is a better choice.

Oh, also I find these kind of spec sheets just don't show a very good picture for comparison at all. For example, yes the iPhone has NFC technically, but you can't actually use it, so it could as well be a no. The resolution and size of the screen also don't give a good picture of how good the screen is, how is the color accuracy, contrast, etc...

Same with camera is 16 MP necessarily better than 8? Obviously not, there'd need to be a more in depth comparison.

Spec sheet comparisons like that just aren't a very good indicator of things, imo.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think that performance will go to the Note 4 in performance tests (graphics, CPU, etc.). Usually, it is the best phone when released, by a significant margin. I do not see why they would not continue this trend.

Well, it always depends what benchmarks you want to look at. Here are some preliminary results for the iPhones (and they look pretty damn impressive) http://www.anandtech.com/show/8559/iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus-preliminary-results

Looking forward to seeing anandtech test the Note 4, too.

I really like this guy:

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, also I find these kind of spec sheets just don't show a very good picture for comparison at all. For example, yes the iPhone has NFC technically, but you can't actually use it, so it could as well be a no. The resolution and size of the screen also don't give a good picture of how good the screen is, how is the color accuracy, contrast, etc...

Same with camera is 16 MP necessarily better than 8? Obviously not, there'd need to be a more in depth comparison.

Spec sheet comparisons like that just aren't a very good indicator of things, imo.

I find these kinds of spec sheets to be very useful and are highly comparable mostly because they are.

The NFC thing is well known and Apple plans to expand that, in the future. An asterisk should be put next to it, for sure. But it is not fair to say Apple does not have NFC.

The color and contrast is arbitrary because I remember reading that customers thought the Galaxy Note (one) had a better display than the iPhone 4 and it was horribly off from a proper calibration whereas the iPhone 4 was literally the best phone (in accuracy) of its time. The resolution questions answer what most people want to know: can I play x video with y resolution or can I put a wallpaper on my phone with y resolution.

I do agree with the camera stuff, though: those comparisons are sometimes not equatable.

For example, here is a super fan of the Galaxy Note series giving accolades to the new iPhone (he has a clear bias for the Galaxy Note but he still lauds the iPhone with spades of flowery language...meaning there is no denying that the cameras cannot be directly compared despite the Note 3 having a higher pixel count).

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-6-plus-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-3-cameras-compared/

But, yeah, that comparison list is very helpful and almost all fields are useful.

For instance:

Display size
Pixel density
Dimensions
Weight
Capacity
Storage Slots
Battery (and whether or not is is supposed to be removable)
Bluetooth version and capability
NFC capability
Water proofing

Those all seem like excellent comparisons. If Apple would stop being such bitches about how they do RAM then we could even more adequately compare those two. Since we know Apple doesn't put much RAM into their phones (which has a few jimmies rustled regarding the multi-tasking and keeping many things open at the same time), of course Apple doesn't release that information. It's 1 gig, by the way. Also, we know the battery in the iPhone 6 is 1810 mAh. I think how the OSs and CPUs handle battery life is important and many spec sheets include battery life numbers so you can get an idea of the efficiency: the iPhone wins that comparison and it should be noted, imo.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I really like this guy:

YouTube video

This guy reminds me of Lestov: skinny black dude who is smart and well-spoken. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
I find these kinds of spec sheets to be very useful and are highly comparable mostly because they are.

The NFC thing is well known and Apple plans to expand that, in the future. An asterisk should be put next to it, for sure. But it is not fair to say Apple does not have NFC.

The color and contrast is arbitrary because I remember reading that customers thought the Galaxy Note (one) had a better display than the iPhone 4 and it was horribly off from a proper calibration whereas the iPhone 4 was literally the best phone (in accuracy) of its time. The resolution questions answer what most people want to know: can I play x video with y resolution or can I put a wallpaper on my phone with y resolution.

I do agree with the camera stuff, though: those comparisons are sometimes not equatable.

For example, here is a super fan of the Galaxy Note series giving accolades to the new iPhone (he has a clear bias for the Galaxy Note but he still lauds the iPhone with spades of flowery language...meaning there is no denying that the cameras cannot be directly compared despite the Note 3 having a higher pixel count).

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-6-plus-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-3-cameras-compared/

But, yeah, that comparison list is very helpful and almost all fields are useful.

For instance:

Display size
Pixel density
Dimensions
Weight
Capacity
Storage Slots
Battery (and whether or not is is supposed to be removable)
Bluetooth version and capability
NFC capability
Water proofing

Those all seem like excellent comparisons. If Apple would stop being such bitches about how they do RAM then we could even more adequately compare those two. Since we know Apple doesn't put much RAM into their phones (which has a few jimmies rustled regarding the multi-tasking and keeping many things open at the same time), of course Apple doesn't release that information. It's 1 gig, by the way. Also, we know the battery in the iPhone 6 is 1810 mAh. I think how the OSs and CPUs handle battery life is important and many spec sheets include battery life numbers so you can get an idea of the efficiency: the iPhone wins that comparison and it should be noted, imo.

Well that's sort of what I mean, they are all numbers that have some sort of use. But if you actually want the whole story, you need to dig deeper, and get a better understanding of all the aspects.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I really like this guy:

YouTube video


I don't give a **** about 10+ mil sales 😂

First things first, I don't want a phone that bends under normal pressure. Especially since I own some skinny pants.
And I'm NOT gonna buy those brick-sized Otter boxes.

I think Apple messed up with the weak aluminum build with this one.
Should've spent more on R&D for the device instead of rushing out a phablet to compete with the Note 4.