Ronan vs Loki

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Speculation. Ronan beating a slower, non-magical, less cunning foe doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Reread my posts. Your circular trolling games are extremely boring.

I can reread all I want, bottom line is you're still unable to back your claims up with actual video clips. In other words, you're making stuff up.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I can reread all I want, bottom line is you're still unable to back your claims up with actual video clips. In other words, you're making stuff up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You misrepresented my claims. I required myself and you keep trying to misrepresent them.

You're strawmanning to avoid posting videos. It's plain you are unable to back up your claims.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You're strawmanning to avoid posting videos. It's plain you are unable to back up your claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His skills show he is up for the task. Valk did so. Loki is not that on his level.

Valk》Drax.

Loki》 Drax.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Valk》Drax.

Loki》 Drax.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not to the extent Ronan is superior to him.

And? Drax cant be used as a direct comparison since he is inferior to both contenders in this thread. Ronan beating him doesnt prove anything.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And? Drax cant be used as a direct comparison since he is inferior to both contenders in this thread. Ronan beating him doesnt prove anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does. Ronan treats him like nothing. We do not see Loki ever portrayed this badass.

Beating Drax isnt a high feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does. Ronan treats him like nothing. We do not see Loki ever portrayed this badass.

So you're judging this based on who looks more badass... right. Glad we straightened that out.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you're judging this based on who looks more badass... right. Glad we straightened that out.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Beating Drax isnt a high feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, who is portrayed as stronger in the films. It is clearly Ronan.

You do realize strength is not the only factor in a fight right? It's not going to help Ronan from getting a dagger plunged through his back.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You do realize strength is not the only factor in a fight right? It's not going to help Ronan from getting a dagger plunged through his back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree but Ronans strength is well beyond Drax who is superhumanly strong and durable. His skill is also well beyond his as well. How will Loki do so? He was outskilled by Valkyrie. Thor goes easy on his brother and his stabbings do not even really affect Thor on a significant level.

Drax's strength feats don't really seem all that impressive. Sure, he does seem to have superhuman strength, but at this point even Cap trumps him when it comes to strength feats. Plus Cap is more skilled and faster as well and we can see how easily Loki was beating him around.

As for Thor and Valkyrie, both of them would demolish Drax as well so Loki losing to them is not really proof that Ronan would beat Loki. The fact that Loki put up as good a fight as he did against Thor is a far better feat than beating up a drunk Drax.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Casually doing so is.

Doesn't prove he can defeat Loki

Originally posted by FrothByte
Drax's strength feats don't really seem all that impressive. Sure, he does seem to have superhuman strength, but at this point even Cap trumps him when it comes to strength feats. Plus Cap is more skilled and faster as well and we can see how easily Loki was beating him around.

As for Thor and Valkyrie, both of them would demolish Drax as well so Loki losing to them is not really proof that Ronan would beat Loki. The fact that Loki put up as good a fight as he did against Thor is a far better feat than beating up a drunk Drax.

Not to the degree Ronan did. Maybe Thor but not Valk.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Doesn't prove he can defeat Loki

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki has the scepter which is outside his standard gear. Loki did not defeat cap either. Drax bounced off trees like nothing and has shown to be superhumanly strong and durable. He does not possess caps skill but the effortless manner in which Ronan abuses him is what is impressive.

Not to the degree Ronan did. Maybe Thor but not Valk.

Loki beat up Cap, that's a fact. And he did it easily without even using his illusions or knives. Bottom line is, Ronan never faced any opponents as challenging as Thor or Valkyrie. He also has no answer to Loki using illusions and making him a pincushion for his knives.

You keep mentioning how Ronan effortlessly beat up Drax but keep neglecting the fact that Drax was drunk.