Toph vs. Ghazan

Started by wakkawakkawakka2 pages

Toph has no way of actually dealing blows with just earthbending due to the whole lava thing. Then again if Mako could catch him off guard anything is possible 😐

Toph would last longer than Bolin simply because she has better timing and reaction skills due to her earth sense. But Ghazan will win because she can't really do much to him. Sooner or later she'll be surrounded by lava and that will be that lol.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Toph has no way of actually dealing blows with just earthbending due to the whole lava thing. Then again if Mako could catch him off guard anything is possible 😐

Ghazan can be overwhelmed, like he was against Mako and Bolin. Not to mention that if he tries turning her attacks into lava she can just keep pushing it at him while he's doing that, kind of like what Korra did.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No way is Ghazan more powerful than her. Toph has bent insane amounts of earth,

Ghazan wombo-combo'd a Ba Sing Se wall by himself, destroyed the Northern Air Temple by himself, and later collapsed the cave they were fighting in with one attack. He's more powerful.

developed a new form of bending before she developed breasts

So?

and stalemated freaking Bumi in the comics.

Ghazan would also beat Bumi. He'd beat him even harder.

By feats her bending is more powerful and advanced than his. Just like is usual when comparing TLA to Korra, the former generally eclipses the later in scale of bending.

A bunch of fluff, no substance.

She'd beat him through being more powerful and more skilled than him,

More skilled is arguable. More powerful? She struggled just to hold the library. Ghazan could level it in one or two shots.

combining her almost unmatched precision with force he can't handle. And he'd only take away her vision if he turned the whole arena into lava, which wouldn't really help him much either and she has ways to get around that.

Does she now? So she has ways of bending earth she can't "see" now? Because she'd be blind and surrounded by lava. Also dead.

Ghazan wins. 👆

His ability is so overpowered that previously only avatars were shown to do it for a reason.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ghazan can be overwhelmed, like he was against Mako and Bolin.

Toph can't cheap-shot him because she's just one person, and unlike Bolin she can't cancel out his own lavabending with his own.

Not to mention that if he tries turning her attacks into lava she can just keep pushing it at him while he's doing that, kind of like what Korra did.

Oh, so she's going to airbend it away? I didn't know Toph could do that.

Prisonersof the moment

Originally posted by King Joker
Toph has basically no way to beat Ghazan, for the reasons Nemo listed.
what about my point...
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Even with Full Knowledge, what could she do? He heats the ground up she goes blind and he drops her with a pebble.

Originally posted by yungz22
Prisonersof the moment
Go on.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Ghazan wombo-combo'd a Ba Sing Se wall by himself, destroyed the Northern Air Temple by himself, and later collapsed the cave they were fighting in with one attack. He's more powerful.

So? Four random Earthbenders alone could pull a section of that wall down in TLA. Ghazan did nothing more than turn the base into lava, that's not exactly wow-ing me with his power. And he didn't destroy the Northern Air Temple flat-out, he turned one room into lava which spread out and continued doing damage after he'd already left. Collapsing the cave was his big suicide move, he never showed that amount of power before that.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So?

So it shows her natural talent.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Ghazan would also beat Bumi. He'd beat him even harder.

Lolno. Go watch Bumi retake Omashu, you seem to be forgetting some things. He was tossing multiple houses at once at one point, not to mention when he pushes over that massive statue. He's much more powerful than Ghazan. And in her fight with him Toph was tearing apart the side of a cliff, ripping it apart it enough to cause a mini-quake.

Originally posted by NemeBro
A bunch of fluff, no substance.

How's this for substance? Watch when Ghazan turns the hall into lava and Bolin puts up those tiny walls one after the other in response. Now go watch Bitter Work and look at Toph casually pulling up two 15 feet tall walls in Aang's training. She regularly does shit like that too. Even Aang, a weaker Earthbender than her obliterated an Appa-sized boulder without even looking at it when they assault the Earth palace.

Originally posted by NemeBro
More skilled is arguable. More powerful? She struggled just to hold the library. Ghazan could level it in one or two shots.

Lmao, what? That library was enormous. There's no way Ghazan could destroy it that easily. Plus holding something up is a lot harder than destroying the foundations like Ghazan did to that wall. Toph holding up the library is one of the best feats of bending in the series.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Does she now? So she has ways of bending earth she can't "see" now? Because she'd be blind and surrounded by lava. Also dead.

Ghazan wins. 👆

His ability is so overpowered that previously only avatars were shown to do it for a reason.

Um, yes? Toph has bent earth she can't "see" multiple times, grabbed or blocked boulders out of the air, blocked attacks from the walls or ceiling etc etc. And she won't be put into that position. He won't be able to pull that shit while she's throwing house-sized rocks at him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No way is Ghazan more powerful than her. Toph has bent insane amounts of earth, developed a new form of bending before she developed breasts and stalemated freaking Bumi in the comics. By feats her bending is more powerful and advanced than his. Just like is usual when comparing TLA to Korra, the former generally eclipses the later in scale of bending. She'd beat him through being more powerful and more skilled than him, combining her almost unmatched precision with force he can't handle. And he'd only take away her vision if he turned the whole arena into lava, which wouldn't really help him much either and she has ways to get around that.

👆 Neph is right, Toph is considered a master Earthbender, can't really compare her to Bolin who isn't her level 😛 not to mention she's a master metalbender as well.

She takes this