Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaFalse as the oil rig showed his strength failed to the point of being ko'd.
How? He lifted an oil rig. It was more impressive than anything Ronan did w/o the stone.How. What did Ronan do other than beat up Drax that would warrant his chances at beating Supes w/o the stone? Why is that so impressive in the first place?
Oil rig koing superman. If an inanimate object can do so Ronan wipes the floor with him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False as the oil rig showed his strength failed to the point of being ko'd.Oil rig koing superman. If an inanimate object can do so Ronan wipes the floor with him.
By that logic everyone in the MCU, Ronan included, is a ****ing weakling.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaHulk effortlessly stopped a leviathan whereas an oil rig ko'd Superman. Quit being biased and admit a person is harder to defeat than an object that doesn't fight back.
Any particular reason you're only using the oil rig feat, which is still better than anything Ronan did, as your only defense?By that logic everyone in the MCU, Ronan included, is a ****ing weakling.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk effortlessly stopped a leviathan whereas an oil rig ko'd Superman. Quit being biased and admit a person is harder to defeat than an object that doesn't fight back.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaHe didn't get ko'd by the leviathan and did so with relative ease. Superman ko'd himself holding up an oil rig. Not at all. I see Drax as wrecking the oil rig and saw something ram into him and not really do much of anything.
The same Hulk that got KO'd by gravity? But what does any of that have to do with Ronan. Based off feats Ronan would've been crushed by the oil rig. You still never specified anything other than beating up Drax nor have you explain why that's impressive. You can at least address my concerns before calling me biased.
The ease in which doing so like he was nothing at all.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't get ko'd by the leviathan and did so with relative ease. Superman ko'd himself holding up an oil rig. Not at all. I see Drax as wrecking the oil rig and saw something ram into him and not really do much of anything.The ease in which doing so like he was nothing at all.
That's flawed reasoning again. Going by that, Captain America should beat able to beat up Ronan because he casually beat up some mooks.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaYou said based off the oil rig that superman is stronger than the entire marvel universe, kiddo.
Again what does hulk have to do with this? When did Drax or Ronan do anything comparable to the oil rig, which is still superior.That's flawed reasoning again. Going by that, Captain America should beat able to beat up Ronan because he casually beat up some mooks.
Drax isn't a mook. Boom.
Ronan crushes the pansy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said based off the oil rig that superman is stronger than the entire marvel universe, kiddo.Drax isn't a mook. Boom.
Ronan crushes the pansy.
He was casually beaten. Cap is capable of casually beating non mooks too. Therefore Cap>>>Ronan again according to the logic you used.
Without the stone he has nothing on Supes.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaSuperman just held up the object and was ko'd not by the object alone.
When did I ever say that? You on the other hand stated that Ronan would win because Supes was knocked out by an inanimate objects. So again going by your logic, people who have been knocked out by inanimate objects, which is nearly everyone in the MCU, Ronan and with every other Marvel character would be a weakling.He was casually beaten. Cap is capable of casually beating non mooks too. Therefore Cap>>>Ronan again according to the logic you used.
Without the stone he has nothing on Supes.
False as Drax isn't a mook nor does cap casually beat characters on drax's level, sport.
Prove it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman just held up the object and was ko'd not by the object alone.False as Drax isn't a mook nor does cap casually beat characters on drax's level, sport.
Prove it.
Oh really? That's not what you said here.
Originally posted by quanchi112Oil rig koing superman. If an inanimate object can do so Ronan wipes the floor with him.
Cap casually beat people and mooks. Considering the ease that he does it that should put him above both Drax and Ronan...according to you.
You want me to prove your argument for you? Why?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaIt didn't animate but for all his strength he failed to show he's hulk strong, sport.
Oh really? That's not what you said here.Inanimate objects can suddenly animate and KO things?
Cap casually beat people and mooks. Considering the ease that he does it that should put him above both Drax and Ronan...according to you.
You want me to prove your argument for you? Why?
Drax isn't a moot so you ignored that and continue to do so.
Concession accepted, fozzy.
You guys really should just not bother paying attention to Quan in any MOS thread. He hates him, so will distort the oil rig feat to lowball him (his strength did not fail, the structure he tried supporting did), while ignoring all of MOS Clark's high end feats. You could make a MOS vs Captain America thread and Quan would probably back Cap to win.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerI am citing evidence and have thoroughly won this debate.
You guys really should just not bother paying attention to Quan in any MOS thread. He hates him, so will distort the oil rig feat to lowball him (his strength did not fail, the structure he tried supporting did), while ignoring all of MOS Clark's high end feats. You could make a MOS vs Captain America thread and Quan would probably back Cap to win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It didn't animate but for all his strength he failed to show he's hulk strong, sport.Drax isn't a moot so you ignored that and continue to do so.
Concession accepted, fozzy.
According to you it did. Hulk's strength accounts for nothing before the almighty force of gravity.
Drak's was beating by Ronan with ease. Cap beats mooks with ease. Therefore using that logic, the ease with which Cap beat the mooks would warrant that he can beat Ronan.
Says the guy that wanted me to prove his point for him.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaCompletely untrue.
According to you it did. Hulk's strength accounts for nothing before the almighty force of gravity.Drak's was beating by Ronan with ease. Cap beats mooks with ease. Therefore using that logic, the ease with which Cap beat the mooks would warrant that he can beat Ronan.
Says the guy that wanted me to prove his point for him.
Drax isn't a mook. Cap has been hurt by less than Drax. Ronan would eat cap for breakfast and he definitely beats Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am citing evidence and have thoroughly won this debate.
You're distorting a low end feat (and completely ignoring all his high end feats and overall powerset) and haven't won anything, based off of the general consensus to the result of this match.
You also use the Hulk leviathan feat to compare, which is:
A. Utterly pointless, considering the Hulk isn't in this match.
B. Not effortless. He was pushed back several feet, roared in effort and ended up having to apply both his arms and brace his feet.
And also, what happened to the Leviathan? Oh right, it was going to tip over onto the entire Avengers team if it hadn't been for Iron Man. Tip over, like when the oil rig lost structural integrity and tipped over onto Superman. The only difference in those 2 scenarios is that Hulk had someone to help him out, while Clark didn't.