Thanos vs Annihilators

Started by Fifthchild18 pages

Originally posted by Insane Titan
so being smart and not delaying any further is stupid now? Lol talk about grasping at straws.

Glads said himself when locked in the Klyn he was no match for Thanos, plus you just wish to ignore all the people Glads has struggled with who Thanos has crushed.

I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just looking at what we were shown in the issue.

Sure other stories by other writers often show different things, we all know that, but in this story Thanos did not look like he felt Gladiator was a cockroach who just wasnt worth squashing.

I know thats the default interpretation when Thanos doesnt look absolutely unstoppable but it seems like a pretty big stretch in this scene. If you think Thanos would crush Gladiator based on the bulk of continuity - fine. But i cant agree with the attempt to try and spin this scene in order to try and make it fit that narrative. It is what it is.

Typical Hulk fan.

Dont get angry at me - take it up with Starlin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they aren't because one scan doesn't tell a whole story so it can be used to mislead and leave out the context of the entire story and the circumstances.

After all this time you're so behind the times I find it sad in a way but hilarious in another.

Scans is a plural word. Scan is singular. I used the word Scans. You are talking about a single Scan. See the difference?

But yes, it is possible that a single scan can leave out context. But not all scans are this way. The feats I mention, the context is either known or the scan gives all relevant information.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
...You continue to dig yourself into a deeper hole."Scans are everything."? No they aren't. Context and information leading up to said scan can completely change the dynamic of a scenario you may see in a scan. This is kindergarten basics, you should know better. With your logic of "Scans are everything. They are the evidence we post here to debate. They are all that's needed." Then Spiderman is the most powerful herald in comics he koed Superman with one punch...
Scans are everything. This is the truth. Scans contain the relevant information (all of it). Don't confuse scans with feats. Scans are pages of the comic that gives complete information of evidence that someone is using to debate with.

Again, scans are every page that is needed to support the argument.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just looking at what we were shown in the issue.

Sure other stories by other writers often show different things, we all know that, but in this story Thanos did not look like he felt Gladiator was a cockroach who just wasnt worth squashing.

I know thats the default interpretation when Thanos doesnt look absolutely unstoppable but it seems like a pretty big stretch in this scene. If you think Thanos would crush Gladiator based on the bulk of continuity - fine. But i cant agree with the attempt to try and spin this scene in order to try and make it fit that narrative. It is what it is.

Dont get angry at me - take it up with Starlin.

you are ignoring everything in a attempt to make stuff up , you did this on herochat often and your aim was always to make Hulk look better even if he was not in the thread.

Starlin made it clear in the epilogue that Thanos would kill Gladiator along with loads of others in combat when he was shown a top a pile of dead bodies.

Posters like you make me laugh you complain Starlin wanks Thànos and completely say it's not valid , yet when he pays lip service to another character it's 100% proof.

The arguments made here to save face for their characters are insane (Bill -rage... Thanos - a lot of Thanos fans). I guess Thanos high tailed it out of there because he felt confident in beating Gladiator. Makes sense.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Then don't respond to me because I'm sorry I responded to you.

Quite honestly, I am at a loss for words though. This has passed the point of denial. It's something else at this point.

I don't know what I should say here. "Emotionally invested"?

The only thing I guess left to say is to post a link to what epilogue means:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/epilogue

And then posting the previews for New Avengers 12 so I can't doctor it and lie about it.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=19106

The first scan shows the bomb blowing up. Indicating it happened previously. The third scan says "Epilogue". The scan you posted happened in this issue. And as we seen the bomb blowing up happened prior to your scan... uh...

New Avengers 12 was an epilogue to the entire Infinity event.

Besides that, you previously stated it happened right before the Thanos fight.

Which it didn't.

I don't even have to post a scan to prove this. Like... did you even read Infinity? Serious question.

And I have no idea what you're trying to say with all this "machine talk" since I like blank out trying to understand it, but you do realize Maximus makes crazy tech all the time, and all that machine did was measure how powerful BB was after the events of Infinity.

I could go look at and doctor a scan from a later New Avengers right before the dreaded Sungod encounter, but it seems so unneeded.

Also, so you have a reason to ignore me, because the insults are the only reason you'd do that...
How's that sleep debating going?

Let the Mohawk dreams and consistent mumblings of "Gladiator" carry you to a better tomorrow.

So tell me Bran. When did that scene happen? At one point did it happen with BB being weakened?

Per Bran admission what happened was...

1. Thanos and BB fought and while fighting the terrigen bomb went off as shown in infinity.

2. Black Bolt somehow got away from Thanos after their fight and Max advise BB that he's weakened due to the terrigen bomb...the same got darn bomb that exploded already. So what this means is that not only did Max build 2 bombs, the both of them went off around the same time (since we see a bomb going off in infinity and we see a bomb going off in new Avengers as well).

New Avengers showed a past event with the interaction between Max and BB. Happens all the time in comics. In infinity we see Max and the dog walk off due to the bomb being activated. In new Avengers we see Max and the dog yet again walking away from the bomb. We see them activating the bomb in new Avengers. We see the bomb go off in infinity.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
But, as stated before, that interpretation begins to look real shakey given all the talk from Thanos about what a blast he was having fighting the others:

Thanos: "OMG - this is literally better than sex! I had forgotten how exhilarating it is to crush ones enemies. A little light exercise ha ha! Is that the best you have to offer?"

Warlock: "Gladiator should be back any minute now."

Thanos: "...Time to go."

This never happened. Stop making stuff up.

The only thing Thanos said was he thought Gladiator was the strongest of the Annihilators present, and that he would "deal with him personally" before BFRing him.

Somehow that translates to "omg Gladiator is so much more powerful than me, I fear him" 😂

Originally posted by One-Punch
This never happened. Stop making stuff up.

The only thing Thanos said was he thought Gladiator was the strongest of the Annihilators present, and that he would "deal with him personally" before BFRing him.

Somehow that translates to "omg Gladiator is so much more powerful than me, I fear him" 😂

He is talking about this.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
Some more ammo for you Carv:

It seems while Thanos enjoyed fighting the other Annihilators he wasn't keen to face Gladiator at all...

Originally posted by carver9
Per Bran admission what happened was...

1. Thanos and BB fought and while fighting the terrigen bomb went off as shown in infinity.

2. Black Bolt somehow got away from Thanos after their fight and Max advise BB that he's weakened due to the terrigen bomb...the same got darn bomb that exploded already. So what this means is that not only did Max build 2 bombs, the both of them went off around the same time (since we see a bomb going off in infinity and we see a bomb going off in new Avengers as well).

New Avengers showed a past event with the interaction between Max and BB. Happens all the time in comics. In infinity we see Max and the dog walk off due to the bomb being activated. In new Avengers we see Max and the dog yet again walking away from the bomb. We see them activating the bomb in new Avengers. We see the bomb go off in infinity.

carver you have no idea what you're talking about , you had to google the image and even ask Galan when it's from when I tried to trick.

Why don't you post a scan saying or showing the bomb absorbed his voice.

I was talking about quivering in his boots.

Thanos said he'd want to avoid combat with Hulk too, yet later on he engages Hulk and Thing at the same time, and was about to pummel their heads together.

Thanos saying he wants to avoid combat doesn't mean much, especially when he's on one of his cosmic quests.

Whoever wins...this last fight dont show to us the awnser.

Thanos beat 2 annihilators, and not at same time.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator wasn't down though and Thanos snuck attacked him. He didn't even see that coming. Nice try though.

...You are missing the entire point. "Gladiator wasn't down though, nice try." ... The point is Thanos a being who is astronomically more powerful than Black Dwarf one shot koed him out of spite. Black Dwarf was able to take on a team of seasoned generals and perform well. He even rattled Gladiator. I'm confused, what are people trying to establish with the whole Thanos ran from Gladiator thing? Are they trying to claim that with Gladiator on the scene Thanos would have got stomped even though he spite stomped the entire Annihilator squad? Or is Carver trying to milk an insignificant scene that kinda makes one of his favorite characters look cool? Hilarious how people are clinging on to the herp derp "Thanos is scared of Gladiator" when he spite stomped the Silver Surfer and Surfer would beat Gladiator every time... Lol just think about that for a moment. This thread may need mod intervention since people don't know how to suspend their bias towards their favorite character, their hate towards Thanos, or cannot use logical thinking.

Originally posted by h1a8
Scans are everything. This is the truth. Scans contain the relevant information (all of it). Don't confuse scans with feats. Scans are pages of the comic that gives complete information of evidence that someone is using to debate with.

Again, scans are every page that is needed to support the argument.

Yeah I think you are officially the worst poster on kmc. You literally just told me "Dont read, just look at the pretty pictures." I am not sure if you are trolling at this point because I find it hard to believe that anyone lacks kindergarten level logic. So again since scans are everything and context or outside knowledge means nothing, than Spiderman is the most powerful herald in comics because he one-shotted Superman. This will probably be the last time in ever reply to you. The derpness in this thread is real.

@dial...

Thanos hit Dwarf with a surprise attack that he didn't know was coming. If you can use that as a showing of strength can i use Hulk during Avengers one shot ko'ing Thor as a test of strength? Dwarf didn't see it coming. If it was a straight up fight, you'll probably have an argument but it wasn't.

Originally posted by One-Punch
I was talking about quivering in his boots.

Thanos said he'd want to avoid combat with Hulk too, yet later on he engages Hulk and Thing at the same time, and was about to pummel their heads together.

Thanos saying he wants to avoid combat doesn't mean much, especially when he's on one of his cosmic quests.

Thanos clearly ran from Gladiator in that showing...CLEARLY. Thanos grabbing both Thing and Hulk head means nothing.

How does bracing for an attack stop you from getting KOed?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How does bracing for an attack stop you from getting KOed?

It.was.a.surprise.attack.

IIRC, he wasn't even looking at Thanos when it happened.

Can Captain Marvel Ko Superman with two punches?

You don't recall correctly, then. He was looking directly at Thanos....

Carter fails yet again.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You don't recall correctly, then. He was looking directly at Thanos....

Surprise and unexpected attack.