Michael Lane (Azrael) Vs Black Panther

Started by Zack M2 pages
Originally posted by deathslash
he kind of does though. If panther chooses to use his gauntlets, lane's gonna get a hole punched though his body.

Lane's armor can protect him from physical harm. It might not work.

Originally posted by deathslash
alright then. The question still remains though, the sword can go through solids, but does it have any feats that show it going through an energy shield? Also, is azrael fast enough to dodge panther's daggers when they're thrown at him, Dodge the mini bombs, and detect panther when he goes invisible.?
Yes. they're pure energy and can go through solids, if they couldn't then someone would have to be entirely naked for the swords to affect them.

The only thing we know about Lane's speed is that he's 100x faster than an average human, based on that he could probably avoid most projectiles, and even if he couldn't it's unlikely that T'Challa is gonna bomb him before he goes into close quarters.

Stealth might work, but again T'Challa would have to subdue Lane before Lane lands a single hit with the Swords

Originally posted by RadZoa
Yes. they're pure energy and can go through solids, if they couldn't then someone would have to be entirely naked for the swords to affect them.

The only thing we know about Lane's speed is that he's 100x faster than an average human, based on that he could probably avoid most projectiles, and even if he couldn't it's unlikely that T'Challa is gonna bomb him before he goes into close quarters.

Stealth might work, but again T'Challa would have to subdue Lane before Lane lands a single hit with the Swords

the swords are pure energy? Has anybody every tried to absorb or redirect the energy? I know that panther's suit is capable of absorbing and redirecting energy so the question should be asked.

That kind of sounds like hyperbole. Does he have any showings that demonstrate such a thing?

Likewise, if Lane's best durability feats include no selling a rocket launcher, then it's very likely that T'challa using the gauntlets could punch a hole in him. Seriously, he's made name bleed with a normal punch and then almost killed him with his gauntlets.

Nobody can beat Panther, don't you get the memo?

Obviously he has never lost a fight to another MA, right deathslash?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nobody can beat Panther, don't you get the memo?

Obviously he has never lost a fight to another MA, right deathslash?

or perhaps he has enough damage output to currently punch through a man? Unless you think that azrael has durability that's on par with namor then it should be obvious what will happen when he gets hit with the gauntlets.

You're entitled to your own opinions, but it's pretty easy to see that you think your opinions are facts.

Well of course, anybody lower than Namor gets killed.

That includes that Batman clone from Great Society too, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well of course, anybody lower than Namor gets killed.

That includes that Batman clone from Great Society too, right?

panther didn't use the gauntlets in that fight and you know it. You also can't judge him just because he was a clone of batman. He might share similarities, but he's still a different character and could be (and most likely was) above batman.

Originally posted by deathslash
panther didn't use the gauntlets in that fight and you know it. You also can't judge him just because he was a clone of batman. He might share similarities, but he's still a different character and could be (and most likely was) above batman.

Well of course, he fought Panther so he was Above batman.

What a great logic.

Originally posted by deathslash
the swords are pure energy? Has anybody every tried to absorb or redirect the energy? I know that panther's suit is capable of absorbing and redirecting energy so the question should be asked.

That kind of sounds like hyperbole. Does he have any showings that demonstrate such a thing?

Likewise, if Lane's best durability feats include no selling a rocket launcher, then it's very likely that T'challa using the gauntlets could punch a hole in him. Seriously, he's made name bleed with a normal punch and then almost killed him with his gauntlets.

It might be enduring Fireballs attacks, which said they felt as hot as the sun. Probably not that hot, but fireball was pretty powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well of course, he fought Panther so he was Above batman.

What a great logic.

your logic is the one that's broken here, not mine. You're talking in absolutes and acting like it's the truth. I said that he could be above batman, not that he absolutely was. He and the rest of the society were veterans of several incursions (meaning that they had defeated several different versions of earth's best line of defense) and he was clearly a skilled martial artist and tactician. Lastly, he was fighting a version of panther that had previously shown the ability to punch a cyborg in half, defeated black swan with one punch, survived getting hit in the face by terrax, and had teleportation, cloaking, energy shields, and energy daggers. We don't know for sure how powerful wayne was through, so it's all left up to conjecture.

Panther and Batman are likely really close in HTH. When 2 characters are extremely skilled, it's hard to say who's above the other. Guys like Batman, Shiva, Cassandra, Richard, Iron Fist, Cap, Panther are top tiers.

Guys like Karate Kid are universal tier or whatever you want to call it.

Originally posted by Zack M
Panther and Batman are likely really close in HTH. When 2 characters are extremely skilled, it's hard to say who's above the other. Guys like Batman, Shiva, Cassandra, Richard, Iron Fist, Cap, Panther are top tiers.

Guys like Karate Kid are universal tier or whatever you want to call it.

yeah, they're really close in h2h but let's not forget about physical stats either. Panther is a legitimate superhuman while batman is still only a peak human.

Originally posted by deathslash
yeah, they're really close in h2h but let's not forget about physical stats either. Panther is a legitimate superhuman while batman is still only a peak human.

I'm not talking about physical stats. Just pure skills. Batman is probably slightly above Panther. DC has guys that are physically on par with Panther and Cap. Deathstroke, Midnighter, Zealot, Azrael, Bane, etc...

Bump for Supermutant! He's sporting a new Michael Lane sig.