Kratos vs 50 avatars (A:TLA)

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Fair enough.

I see what you're saying. Doing vs. kinda implements sad double standards in some cases (like this one). Sonic should be f**king up whether patterns and dramatically increasing his mass, as fast as he's going, but welcome to the realm of fiction, I guess. Nonetheless, my point remains. Use one or the other; you can't have it both ways.

Honestly, I'm getting sick of the whole "ZOMG mah herp derp combat speed falacy" bullshit in general. I hoped it would die out a long time ago seeing as it leads people to narrowly neglect all other factors in its favor.

I'm not really sure. That's beside the point, either way.

Doing vs. with characters from different universes implements a whole lot of bias, double standards, and a host of other BS that make it pointless.
Are you ranting in general, or accusing me of using double-standards here?

Yes, people tend to believe speed trumps every other physical ability.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Not really. I gave the reason of them being impervious to magma as something to point to the coldness (didn't bother backing -0k for sakes) and the much higher hellfire heat being the only temp that can damage them as being further demonstration of the ice.

So far I see an item bio here.

And where exactly did you get that they were impervious to magma and only vulnerable to hellfire heat?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Doing vs. with characters from different universes implements a whole lot of bias, double standards, and a host of other BS that make it pointless.
Are you ranting in general, or accusing me of using double-standards here?

Yes, people tend to believe speed trumps every other physical ability.

And where exactly did you get that they were impervious to magma and only vulnerable to hellfire heat?

Yeah. They implement rules such as "energy equivalence" and "no-limits" in an attempt to make everything a little more balanced. Alas, no system is without flaw given its creation and use by flawed individuals (no offense to anyone).

Generalized rant. Nothing directed at you.

Exactly my point. No other stat or factor gets near the same attention or creates as much fuss. Debates and verdicts have become painfully shallow as a result. Even DEATH BATTLE, as often as they've been wrong

Spoiler:
(Lol at Rogue beating Wonder Woman)

Okay. What are you two pissing about?

1 Avatar is enough

No Avatars are enough

Question for the OP: Is this 50 Avatars throughout history, or duplicates of one or few Avatars we actually know about?

Knowing this might help.

@DP: The Frost bio backed up by the game showing it can survive in a volcano and even touch magma (it's where you encounter them) without flinching, to then be crippled when using Ifrit far more than other weapons.

@Neme: Maybe not (maybe? Too many scenes to remember), but there's also nothing, even from the very top tiers, that suggests such a speed is below the gods. Isn't something like this usually thrown as an outlier, or at least highly sceptical even with a slight more evidence (say a offshot calc) than this? Like moon busting and lightspeed in early DB.

anyone read god of war 2 novel ? i think zeus have new speed feat like zeus was able to vanish in a flash of light ...

http://books.google.co.id/books?id=6afPNKGJyfEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=god+of+war+2+novel&hl=id&sa=X&ei=InjoU66gLtiD8gXD9oHQCw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

The novel would only end up crippling GoW.

Why?

That I recall they describe Kratos' strength, durability and I think speed as being only superhuman. Wolverine level superhuman. Accepting the novel and those feats wouldn't help GoW imo.

Feats/powerscaling>

So we can accept both feats?

I'm well aware the novel has a fair share of low ends, which like evry other series, just get ignored

and now...... kratos vs aang thread http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kratos-vs-aang.307772/ 😂

I thought we went by constancy?

Originally posted by BloodRain
I thought we went by constancy?

Yeah. So did I. 😬

Originally posted by BloodRain
That I recall they describe Kratos' strength, durability and I think speed as being only superhuman. Wolverine level superhuman. Accepting the novel and those feats wouldn't help GoW imo.

Feats going into detail about events putting Kratos at Logan's level? I don't even remember people showing novel Kratos doing impressive things (admittedly people may just have not posted any yet). But there's a constant amount like this.

Okay so what puts him at Wolverine level?

"strength of six men", shrapnel, arrows damaging with mooks weapons being a threat. Not getting much from memory, and I'm assuming you know of his superior novel feats?