Loki vs Abomination

Abomination.

I can see Loki trolling here and there, but Abomination will wise up and eventually get his hands on him. Once he does it's GG.

Originally posted by carver9
All of Hulk fights in the Avengers movie is most def getting downplayed here and it's sad. Can't wait until the next movie so we can see who else is holding back against him. Now Loki wasn't paying him any attention when Loki was looking right at Hulk before he got drilled.

I'm pretty sure Abomination would win more often than not

In the Avengers setting, only Thor has shown that he can go toe to toe with Hulk (Who Abomination without being squashed. Loki isn't nearly that strong, and while his illusions are useful and while his knives can cut Abomination, the wounds would be too small and healed too quickly. Abomination should win, and without much trouble.

All assuming that the Hulk that Abom fought is as strong as the one in Avengers. I'm admittedly not sure that's the case.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm pretty sure Abomination would win more often than not

In the Avengers setting, only Thor has shown that he can go toe to toe with Hulk (Who Abomination without being squashed. Loki isn't nearly that strong, and while his illusions are useful and while his knives can cut Abomination, the wounds would be too small and healed too quickly. Abomination should win, and without much trouble.

All assuming that the Hulk that Abom fought is as strong as the one in Avengers. I'm admittedly not sure that's the case.

This.

Loki's illusions are merely there to delay the inevitable. He really has nothing that can hurt Abomination. Rpg's and Hulk pounding him using car doors didn't faze him, and high caliber bullets can't pierce him, the daggers will just tickle him.

Can Loki throw his daggers, not that it matters because they really won't affect Abom, but I was wondering because if not it means his only way to stab Abom would be to get close to him, and Loki's screwed if that happens.

Originally posted by carver9
All of Hulk fights in the Avengers movie is most def getting downplayed here and it's sad. Can't wait until the next movie so we can see who else is holding back against him. Now Loki wasn't paying him any attention when Loki was looking right at Hulk before he got drilled.

They do get downplayed but you also ignore any evidence that doesn't support Hulk being able to utterly destroy everyone.

So it's hard for me to take the Hulk/Loki fight at face value.

For one Loki had already fought Thor and got beat up

Two he was out of weapons and therefore didn't have access to any of his offensive capabilities.

Three Loki was still awake, although he was hurting, after the attack and he also stood up after Hulk through him through the glass.

So he was already hurt, and weaponless so not much he could do in that fight.

I don't know if Loki with all his weapons could beat Hulk but I think based on Loki's feats with his weapons he could make it a fight and definitely hurt Hulk.

I also think Avenger's Hulk has much better feats than TIH Hulk.

I think Loki's daggers and Scepter would be able to hurt Abom potentially very badly depending on where he hits. And I don't think Abom would be able to destroy Loki in close range either.

Loki is pretty agile and quick in his own right and a skilled HtH combatant. Him being able to go toe to toe with Thor whose feats are equal to and better than Abom's makes me think he can go toe to toe with Abom as long as he has weapons with him.

Originally posted by Newjak
I also think Avenger's Hulk has much better feats than TIH Hulk

Agreed.

Loki gets the Joe Dirt treatment

Originally posted by Newjak
So it's hard for me to take the Hulk/Loki fight at face value.

For one Loki had already fought Thor and got beat up

Two he was out of weapons and therefore didn't have access to any of his offensive capabilities.

Three Loki was still awake, although he was hurting, after the attack and he also stood up after Hulk through him through the glass.

So he was already hurt, and weaponless so not much he could do in that fight.

I don't know if Loki with all his weapons could beat Hulk but I think based on Loki's feats with his weapons he could make it a fight and definitely hurt Hulk.

I also think Avenger's Hulk has much better feats than TIH Hulk.

I think Loki's daggers and Scepter would be able to hurt Abom potentially very badly depending on where he hits. And I don't think Abom would be able to destroy Loki in close range either.

Loki is pretty agile and quick in his own right and a skilled HtH combatant. Him being able to go toe to toe with Thor whose feats are equal to and better than Abom's makes me think he can go toe to toe with Abom as long as he has weapons with him.

When was Loki hurt during his Thor fight? Especially to the point that he couldn't fight the Hulk.

Wait, what weapons would have made a difference? Remember, that same weapon Loki had, those aliens had them as well and they rained blasts down on Hulk.

So Loki is unhittable? Please post this scene.

What speed fts does Thor have that comparable to Abomination back being turned and catching a missle?

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Loki gets the Joe Dirt treatment

Didn't Joe Dirt end up with the girl, the car of his dreams and owning his rival?

Originally posted by NemeBro
All assuming that the Hulk that Abom fought is as strong as the one in Avengers. I'm admittedly not sure that's the case.

It's the same Hulk, just Banner isn't in control. Though Avengers' Hulk has the greatest strength feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Didn't Joe Dirt end up with the girl, the car of his dreams and owning his rival?

Yes, he also fantasized about ****ing his own sister. Which is what Tats might have been referring to.

Loki wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, what weapons would have made a difference? Remember, that same weapon Loki had, those aliens had them as well and they rained blasts down on Hulk.

Pretty sure he's referring to Loki's scepter, which Loki lost by the time he faces the Hulk. IIRC, Loki was weaponless by all appearances in that scene.

Originally posted by Newjak

For one Loki had already fought Thor and got beat up

Thor has never even fought Loki properly.

Every time they engage, Thor switches to sword play fighting, as if that is all mjolnir is good for.

I'd like to see Thor fight Loki as he did Hulk, Kurse, or Malekith - all of whom will end Loki in seconds.

Lightning and repeated hammer to the face will prove once again Loki is a puny "god".

I don't get why people are making claims such as "I am not sure that Abom is as strong as Avengers Hulk" or "Avengers Hulk had better feats than IH Hulk".

Such statements presume that the 2 Hulks were different characters, when they are the exact same being in the shared cinematic universe created by Marvel.

Right, only Ruffalo Banner displays a level of control over his other side that Norton never managed. Norton only became Hulk by putting his life in danger, Ruffalo could Hulk out at will, implying that the two personalities were more at peace with each other.

Whether or not this greater control came with greater at-will strength is something else entirely.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Right, only Ruffalo Banner displays a level of control over his other side that Norton never managed. Norton only became Hulk by putting his life in danger, Ruffalo could Hulk out at will, implying that the two personalities were more at peace with each other.

Whether or not this greater control came with greater at-will strength is something else entirely.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Right, only Ruffalo Banner displays a level of control over his other side that Norton never managed. Norton only became Hulk by putting his life in danger, Ruffalo could Hulk out at will, implying that the two personalities were more at peace with each other.

Whether or not this greater control came with greater at-will strength is something else entirely.

I'm not gonna check doe.

Assuming both of you are talking about the same thing, that's still after Hulk fought Abomination.

Either way Abomination probably wins though, to be honest.