Originally posted by abhilegend
But yeah, Superman retains his kryptonian density and above human power even after being powerless. Add to the fact that he was a street level fighter in early days who is not above playing dirty and can take huge amount of punishment before going down and he would win here convincingly. Thor and his vaunted skills aren't worth shit here against a legit meta.
Superman shouldn't become an ordinary man if he loses his powers temporarily, it's been stressed so many times that he's not a human with super-powers, but a Kryptonian under yellow sun.
I don't think the thread starter is aware of this, but thinks that both would be ordinary humans if they lost their powers (which Thor more or less would be), a scenario in which I think Thor wins. If not, then Superman wins.
Originally posted by krisblazeIF we are doing that wouldn't Thor keep his normal Asgardian physiology as well?
I agree.Superman shouldn't become an ordinary man if he loses his powers temporarily, it's been stressed so many times that he's not a human with super-powers, but a Kryptonian under yellow sun.
I don't think the thread starter is aware of this, but thinks that both would be ordinary humans if they lost their powers (which Thor more or less would be), a scenario in which I think Thor wins. If not, then Superman wins.
But besides that point I think it is pretty clear that the intention of this thread was for a human level Thor and human level Superman to go at it.
Originally posted by riv6672
Hahaha! 👆
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But seriously though. I didn't read the story yet(pretty sure I have it, but I have lots and lots of comics I haven't read yet), so maybe there's something that could've stated definitively that Thor was powerless. And if so, well, ok. Writer's intent. But looking at the fight by itself? No, I'm not buyin' that a powerless Thor beat Grog through pure skill. And the fight was pretty much no-skill, just standard determined punches. If Thor's skill was that great, why does he have any problems, with say, Kurse? That would be like borderline Karate Kid level skill on top of Top-Tier strength and should own Kurse.
Originally posted by Newjak
IF we are doing that wouldn't Thor keep his normal Asgardian physiology as well?But besides that point I think it is pretty clear that the intention of this thread was for a human level Thor and human level Superman to go at it.
True enough, and yeah, I assumed it would be human Thor vs human Superman.
Originally posted by riv6672
Supermex also likes to add stips as he goes, so, you never know!😂Current Superman is just not as skilled as the older version. I'd still give the win to Thor in this scenario regardless of the version.
Bias? I dont think so.
I'm one of the first to admit Supes is the more powerful of the two, powers on.
But he's not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor with powers can't handle a normal man as shown just now in Captain America.😂
J/K.
But yeah, Superman retains his kryptonian density and above human power even after being powerless. Add to the fact that he was a street level fighter in early days who is not above playing dirty and can take huge amount of punishment before going down and he would win here convincingly. Thor and his vaunted skills aren't worth shit here against a legit meta.
This ain't boy scout post-crisis Superman.
*shrug*So does Superman's, whose battle skills is legend across time and space as shown when they were acknowledged by Pax Galactica and Legion of Superheroes.
No he does not keep his Kryptonian density, although you head does. Wtf, did you bother reading the OP? A NORMAL MAN. Furthermore, even in your messed up misinterpretation, why would Thor not retain his 680lbs of dense muscle at well? Damn you have issues.
This is not a fight. Thor is the greatest warrior in the 9 realms who happens to be 6'6". But Superman is a tomato can boxer?? Hilarious. So, a middle weight random boxer could beat Conan? 💃
Originally posted by Delta1938
So, the real question is, which Superman did Supermex intend? Like I said, he has a habit of specifying DCnU. Supermex, did you forget, or intend Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman?
My habit of late is dcnu just because I like to you use current standard levels of the hero or villain.
In this case I forgot that Clark pre-flashpoint and Dcnu are different in the knowledge learned so far in there hero life's..
In thus case to be more fair to Superman we will use per-Flashpoint unarmed Superman at human-level..
The same is for Thor, unarmed human-level..
H2H street fight!!
Originally posted by Supermex
My habit of late is dcnu just because I like to you use current standard levels of the hero or villain.In this case I forgot that Clark pre-flashpoint and Dcnu are different in the knowledge learned so far in there hero life's..
In thus case to be more fair to Superman we will use per-Flashpoint unarmed Superman at human-level..
The same is for Thor, unarmed human-level..
H2H street fight!!
Well then, Superman wins. 😄
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No he does not keep his Kryptonian density, although you head does. Wtf, did you bother reading the OP? A NORMAL MAN. Furthermore, even in your messed up misinterpretation, why would Thor not retain his 680lbs of dense muscle at well? Damn you have issues.This is not a fight. Thor is the greatest warrior in the 9 realms who happens to be 6'6". But Superman is a tomato can boxer?? Hilarious. So, a middle weight random boxer could beat Conan? 💃
You do a good job of getting things back on point though...👆
Originally posted by Delta1938According to rules if not specified you always use the latest version of the characters.
So, the real question is, which Superman did Supermex intend? Like I said, he has a habit of specifying DCnU. Supermex, did you forget, or intend Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman?
Although he did clarify.
And I would take Thor in both, Pre Flashpoint puts up a better fight.