Darth Vader and Count Dooku vs. Mace Windu and Anakin ROTS

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Darth Vader and Count Dooku vs. Mace Windu and Anakin ROTS

Force, sabers, all out

*ROTJ Vader

*ROTS Dooku

Team 2. Heavily because Windu.

Team 2.

Team 1

Team 1.

Could go either way really, depending on who takes who.

If Mace can compete with Vader long enough for Anakin to MAYBE take out Dooku, then they could win.

If the Count engages Mace, Vader beats Anakin solidly and then they kill Mace.

Vader kills Anakin solidly

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I have no doubt that Vader could defeat Anakin. He'd be missing a few appendages though.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
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I'm sorry, I forgot ROTS Anakin is superior to suit Vader.

Up for debate. They are close though.

ROTJ Vader > ROTS Anakin

Yeah I agree with that

He's not solidly above Anakin. Nowhere near enough to get out of that fight and still contribute to the next.

His saber skills may have decreased after Mustafar for some time but he improved himself in time and makes up for it with experience. Also he became more powerful in the force by a margin.

Pretty much everything about Vader dropped after Mustafar with ANH Vader just getting back to the same level. And while he may have increased in skill and power afterwards, he still isn't solidly above Anakin. They're still pretty comparable.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Pretty much everything about Vader dropped after Mustafar with ANH Vader just getting back to the same level. And while he may have increased in skill and power afterwards, he still isn't solidly above Anakin. They're still pretty comparable.

ANH Vader and ROTJ Vader are sure comparable as I've never denied that. However, by your own admittance, there is an increase of skill and power which ultimately means ROTJ Vader > ROTS Anakin.

As for the topic, I don't think this should be determined by matching opponents. Both sides would be constantly changing opponents and the overall power and teamwork capabilities should matter most.

Anakin is the most inexperienced one here and he is terrible when fighting as a duo as seen many times in AOTC, TCW and ROTS. On the other hand, Windu>Vader>Anakin>Dooku which means team 2 is more powerful overall.

I think this could go either ways.

Originally posted by Sinious
ANH Vader and ROTJ Vader are sure comparable as I've never denied that. However, by your own admittance, there is an increase of skill and power which ultimately means ROTJ Vader > ROTS Anakin.

Of course RotJ Vader is above Anakin. Vader however is not solidly defeating him.

As to the rest, I doubt Mace is above RotS Vader in actual skill, experience means a lot less when it comes to powerhouses. And where is it said that Anakin is awful in a duo? In the novel, the Kenobi Skywalker team is said to be unstoppable. Literally everything else in the Order pales in comparison to their team.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
In the novel, the Kenobi Skywalker team is said to be unstoppable. Literally everything else in the Order pales in comparison to their team.

Too bad TCW really didn't hold true to that.

Eh, there's enough time for them to shape up.