We know Thanos can wreck most heralds.

Started by The Sorrow6 pages

Originally posted by One-Punch
He's already fought Hulk in the past (e.g., overpowering Hulk and Thing at the same time while mocking their strength). More recently Thanos mind raped Hulk instantly, controlling him like a puppet. And yes Hulk stated he was angry just prior to him being mind raped.

Adding Hulk to any team against Thanos would be bad for the team. He'd just get turned into Thanos' pawn and used against the team.


True, however that same Hulk seemed to be overpowering Thanos aswell once he actually got angry who then shrunk Hulk using one of the gems iirc rather than physically stopping him. As for the mind control instance, no herald level character is exempt from mental attacks. More often than not Hulks mind resistance is actually pretty good, but you're always going to have some writers who believe his child-like mentality is a weak point of his. In his more intelligent/assured incarnations you would struggle to find instances of mind-control actually working tbh.

Thanos has stated he avoids Hulk if he can and actually has done a few times now, Hulk ate his heavy punch during Infinity and he got right back up, angry and ready to go again. Thor was able to rock Thanos to some degree with his hammer shot towards the end, and Hulk is stronger than Thor. In his recent fight with BRB he seemed very keen to avoid Stormbreaker, and didn't actually knock him out despite several unanswered attacks.

As I said, I don't think Hulk would win by himself but Thanos knows he would be in for a fight if he was forced to toe to toe with him and I would love to see it, add in Thor who has a history of being able to harm Thanos plus 3 other high heralds (who aren't named Surfer apparently) and Thanos would need to be at the absolute top of his game to pull that one out of the bag.

BRB
Thor
Doc Green (current Hulk)
Gladiator
Superman

That team is too much even for Thanos imo.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
True, however that same Hulk seemed to be overpowering Thanos aswell once he actually got angry who then shrunk Hulk using one of the gems iirc rather than physically stopping him. As for the mind control instance, no herald level character is exempt from mental attacks. More often than not Hulks mind resistance is actually pretty good, but you're always going to have some writers who believe his child-like mentality is a weak point of his. In his more intelligent/assured incarnations you would struggle to find instances of mind-control actually working tbh.

Thanos has stated he avoids Hulk if he can and actually has done a few times now, Hulk ate his heavy punch during Infinity and he got right back up, angry and ready to go again. Thor was able to rock Thanos to some degree with his hammer shot towards the end, and Hulk is stronger than Thor. In his recent fight with BRB he seemed very keen to avoid Stormbreaker, and didn't actually knock him out despite several unanswered attacks.

As I said, I don't think Hulk would win by himself but Thanos knows he would be in for a fight if he was forced to toe to toe with him and I would love to see it, add in Thor who has a history of being able to harm Thanos plus 3 other high heralds (who aren't named Surfer apparently) and Thanos would need to be at the absolute top of his game to pull that one out of the bag.

BRB
Thor
Doc Green (current Hulk)
Gladiator
Superman

That team is too much even for Thanos imo.

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DS Sentry
H'el
HP Doomsday
BL Superman
Zoom

Originally posted by Digi
As always, most of the teams with a chance aren't actually herald teams, but include 1-3 Trans. tier characters. It's linked at the top of the forum, people. SBP, Fate, Sentry, etc. are not heralds.

Didnt even know Sentry was ranked in at all into a tier.

Using a team to beat Thanos is overkill; with a little creative thought and the right setting Heralds can solo Thanos...

Henshaw falls under this category and beats Thanos every single time in the right environment...

Originally posted by The Sorrow
True, however that same Hulk seemed to be overpowering Thanos aswell once he actually got angry who then shrunk Hulk using one of the gems iirc rather than physically stopping him. As for the mind control instance, no herald level character is exempt from mental attacks. More often than not Hulks mind resistance is actually pretty good, but you're always going to have some writers who believe his child-like mentality is a weak point of his. In his more intelligent/assured incarnations you would struggle to find instances of mind-control actually working tbh.

Thanos has stated he avoids Hulk if he can and actually has done a few times now, Hulk ate his heavy punch during Infinity and he got right back up, angry and ready to go again. Thor was able to rock Thanos to some degree with his hammer shot towards the end, and Hulk is stronger than Thor. In his recent fight with BRB he seemed very keen to avoid Stormbreaker, and didn't actually knock him out despite several unanswered attacks.

As I said, I don't think Hulk would win by himself but Thanos knows he would be in for a fight if he was forced to toe to toe with him and I would love to see it, add in Thor who has a history of being able to harm Thanos plus 3 other high heralds (who aren't named Surfer apparently) and Thanos would need to be at the absolute top of his game to pull that one out of the bag.

BRB
Thor
Doc Green (current Hulk)
Gladiator
Superman

That team is too much even for Thanos imo.

when has Thanos avoided Hulk a few times?

And spoke about in the past when fighting Champion in his weaker body, every time Thanos and Hulk have has some kind of meeting Thanos has looked superior.

When has Hulks punches been show to be more devasting than a lighting amped hammer shot from a great height.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
True, however that same Hulk seemed to be overpowering Thanos aswell once he actually got angry who then shrunk Hulk using one of the gems iirc rather than physically stopping him

Never happened. Hulk didn't overpower Thanos at all.

It was Drax and Hulk who snuck behind Thanos and punched him. Thanos blasts Drax away. Hulk punches Thanos a few times before realizing Thanos is now a giant. There was absolutely no indication Hulk was "overpowering" Thanos. Especially since Thanos was backed by the full IG. You're not seriously claiming Hulk overpowered Thanos with IG right? Doubt even carver would claim that.

As for the mind control instance, no herald level character is exempt from mental attacks. More often than not Hulks mind resistance is actually pretty good

Not good enough against Thanos, as shown on panel, when Thanos mind-controlled Hulk like a puppet.
but you're always going to have some writers who believe his child-like mentality is a weak point of his. In his more intelligent/assured incarnations you would struggle to find instances of mind-control actually working tbh.

Prove the bolded statement. Provide evidence that when Hulk is more savage, his TP resistance becomes weak. If you can't back up your claims, then don't make them.

Also Hulk was perfectly intelligent when he fought Abyss on Mars, and again, Hulk was mind-controlled like a puppet. Thanos has better TP feats than Abyss, FYI.

Thanos has stated he avoids Hulk if he can and actually has done a few times now, Hulk ate his heavy punch during Infinity and he got right back up, angry and ready to go again.

Few times? When was this? Thanos has confronted Hulk directly in combat and even mocked him while beating Hulk up. He overpowered Hulk and Thing at the same time, mocking their strength. Pimp slapped both Drax and Hulk, while mocking them again. He's mind controlled Hulk like a puppet. His general, Proxima also one-shot Hulk. Even a weaker Thanosi one-shot Hulk. Every time Thanos has confronted Hulk, Thanos has made Hulk look like a child, sometimes literally.

Thor was able to rock Thanos to some degree with his hammer shot towards the end, and Hulk is stronger than Thor. In his recent fight with BRB he seemed very keen to avoid Stormbreaker, and didn't actually knock him out despite several unanswered attacks.

Yeah...Thor Staggers Thanos a bit after Thanos no sells Thor's attacks multiple times. Thanos has tanked PG Thor's attacks several times and was fine. PG Thor hits harder than Hulk FYI. Even Odin found it hard to put Thanos down. Odin hits harder than Hulk BTW.

Also, I'd like to see you prove that Hulk's punch is stronger than a charged hammer strike? I remember Thor (while exhausted) knocking Nul (amped Hulk) out with a charged hammer strike.

Thanos is afraid of storm breaker? What's with this Thanos is "afraid" BS? He trapped it in a force field and beat the shit out of Bill.

Thanos once used his shield to block Surfer's blast. OMG, this must mean Thanos is afraid of Surfer's energy blasts! Right? See how that type of logic is stupid.

As I said, I don't think Hulk would win by himself but Thanos knows he would be in for a fight if he was forced to toe to toe with him and I would love to see it

It happened like multiple times and Hulk always gets treated like a child. In fact in Infinity Thanos calls Hulk a nuisance/distraction. He doesn't even bother with Hulk and has one of his generals one-shot Hulk. In the past when Thanos has confronted Hulk he has mocked Hulk multiple times to his face while beating him up...

add in Thor who has a history of being able to harm Thanos
Did you not read Infinity? Thor can hardly harm Thanos. Even when he was insane and had the PG the worst he did was give Thanos a bloody nose after striking him several times. So really, what's regular Thor going to do? His only option is god blast, but he'd likely get KO'd before he even decides to use it.

plus 3 other high heralds (who aren't named Surfer apparently) and Thanos would need to be at the absolute top of his game to pull that one out of the bag.

BRB
Thor
Doc Green (current Hulk)
Gladiator
Superman

That team is too much even for Thanos imo.

Thanos has easily dispatched four out of the five of those you've listed...

How would Thanos beat Surfer and Thor together in a forum fight?

Originally posted by h1a8
How would Thanos beat Surfer and Thor together in a forum fight?
You need to read comics to know the answer.

Originally posted by h1a8
How would Thanos beat Surfer and Thor together in a forum fight?

He has the beat in power-ouput and damage soak.

Which is practically all that matters when they have such similar powersets.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He has the beat in power-ouput and damage soak.

Which is practically all that matters when they have such similar powersets.

but what about Surfers ftl combat speed and board to back of the head tactic???

Or open a black hole inside Thanos's head.....zoolander

I forgot to nominate the flash family. They'd win.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
but what about Surfers ftl combat speed and board to back of the head tactic???

Forgot about Surfer's sick attack from 2 angles strategy.

No wonder BRB lost! dur

Originally posted by krisblaze
He has the beat in power-ouput and damage soak.

Which is practically all that matters when they have such similar powersets.

That's irrelevant really. If Surfer black hole blasts him then it is over.
Both Surfer and Thor have defenses to avoid getting hit by Thanos blasts.
Surfer has board from behind tricks, etc.
The problem here is that many are seeing this fight as the characters are attacking one at a time (like in comics). But in reality, both would be attacking at the same time. Thanos can't defend against two or more attacks unless he shields himself. If he does that then he himself can't attack, until he releases his shields or they crumble them.

The black hole blast is enough to seriously phuck Thanos up though.

I think Thanos can tank a "black hole" blast, since he alredy tanked a black hole in past.

And im not sure if Surfer is capable of manipulate matter inside thanos body, since Thanos himself is a matter manipulattor.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's irrelevant really. If Surfer black hole blasts him then it is over.
Both Surfer and Thor have defenses to avoid getting hit by Thanos blasts.
Surfer has board from behind tricks, etc.
The problem here is that many are seeing this fight as the characters are attacking one at a time (like in comics). But in reality, both would be attacking at the same time. Thanos can't defend against two or more attacks unless he shields himself. If he does that then he himself can't attack, until he releases his shields or they crumble them.

The black hole blast is enough to seriously phuck Thanos up though.


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Originally posted by h1a8
That's irrelevant really. If Surfer black hole blasts him then it is over.
Both Surfer and Thor have defenses to avoid getting hit by Thanos blasts.
Surfer has board from behind tricks, etc.
The problem here is that many are seeing this fight as the characters are attacking one at a time (like in comics). But in reality, both would be attacking at the same time. Thanos can't defend against two or more attacks unless he shields himself. If he does that then he himself can't attack, until he releases his shields or they crumble them.

The black hole blast is enough to seriously phuck Thanos up though.

Thanos has already dealt with black holes.

One of them was a black hole created by the Surfer even.

Thanos' equivalent has already tanked large parts of what Thor has to attack with.

Thanos himself has already tanked Surfer's attacks.

He has no problem attacking while he shields himself.

How many times on panel does Thanos have to beat the hell out of a herald or team of heralds before we just stop?

Originally posted by h1a8
That's irrelevant really. If Surfer black hole blasts him then it is over.
Both Surfer and Thor have defenses to avoid getting hit by Thanos blasts.
Surfer has board from behind tricks, etc.
The problem here is that many are seeing this fight as the characters are attacking one at a time (like in comics). But in reality, both would be attacking at the same time. Thanos can't defend against two or more attacks unless he shields himself. If he does that then he himself can't attack, until he releases his shields or they crumble them.

The black hole blast is enough to seriously phuck Thanos up though.

YOU MORON.. thanos would simply teleport out of the black hole like he's already DONE ON PANEL you half wit... that would do nothing to thanos

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
YOU MORON..

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