Talzin vs. Darth Bane

Started by Nephthys2 pages

We're talking about his overall ability as a duelist, not just his skill.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's better than Vader, Malgus, Kenobi and Maul without question imo. And as random sock said, Orbalisk Bane is easily superior to almost everyone on that list.

Obviously I am of a different opinion. 😎

Neither is Bane better "without a question" than the likes of Vader or Maul, nor is he "easily superior" to almost everyone (lol) on this list.

Let's see:

Luke, Yoda, Sidious, Plagueis and Caedus are much more powerful, have Bane beat in skill, speed, feats etc.

Vader has better TK feats and skill feats, Dooku has him beat in mastery and skill and of course in sabers. His TK is in the same league, arguably.

Maul has comparable TK feats, better skill, and is a better swordsman going by feats.

Krayt has him beat in force mastery, perhaps in skill, has a unique ability that would fvck Bane's Orbalisks up, once applied.

Malgus is in the same tier as Vader. So is Kun, and he has his amulet blasts and saber skill that is arguably also better than Bane's.

In conclusion, actually it's the other way around. 🙂
Almost everyone on the list I posted ealier can defeat Bane for a majority.

Originally posted by Stigma
Obviously I am of a different opinion. 😎

Neither is Bane better "without a question" than the likes of Vader or Maul, nor is he "easily superior" to almost everyone (lol) on this list.

In a lightsaber duel, yeah Bane is much better than either Vader or Maul. He is faster and more powerful.

Likewise, with the orbalisks he is easily superior to most of them barring the cream of the crop. He is faster, stronger, regenerates in seconds and has impenetrable armor over 90% of his body.

Originally posted by Stigma
Let's see:

Luke, Yoda, Sidious, Plagueis and Caedus are much more powerful, have Bane beat in skill, speed, feats etc.

These are the ones I wasn't including in my "easily superior" line. Though none of them are much more powerful barring Luke maybe, nor are they faster. Bane gives all of them a good fight regardless of who you think wins.

Originally posted by Stigma
Vader has better TK feats and skill feats, Dooku has him beat in mastery and skill and of course in sabers. His TK is in the same league, arguably.

Maul has comparable TK feats, better skill, and is a better swordsman going by feats.

Krayt has him beat in force mastery, perhaps in skill, has a unique ability that would fvck Bane's Orbalisks up, once applied.

Malgus is in the same tier as Vader. So is Kun, and he has his amulet blasts and saber skill that is arguably also better than Bane's.

In conclusion, actually it's the other way around. 🙂
Almost everyone on the list I posted ealier can defeat Bane for a majority.

Well firstly we're talking about Bane as a duelist, so pointing out TK, Dark Transfer or amulet blasts is meaningless.

Vader - Slower, less powerful and is very limited in mobility. Bane would be all over him and beat him down.

Dooku - Bane's superior speed and strength would be too much for him to compete with.

Maul - Bane is simply faster and more powerful. It would be a repeat of Maul vs Sidious. Maul just can't compete for long if Bane is serious.

Krayt - Again, Krayt is outmatched in stats. I don't think you're grasping how good Bane's speed feats are, or how strong and powerful he is.

Malgus - Same as everyone else. Malgus lacks the ability to compete with Bane for very long.

Kun - Repeat of everyone else. Kun lacks the feats to stand up to Bane.

All of this is just DoE Bane. With Orbalisk Bane everything I just said still applies, but now he has impenetrable armor that lets him walk through lightsaber blows. He'd pwn most of them.