Acts of Vengeance -Vs- The Justice League

Originally posted by Bentley
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Ok, how is he stronger? Has he busted planets with his fists? Has he carried infinite weight? I'm pretty aware that Apocalypse is no weakling, but to give him a definitive physical edge against Kal is iffy at best.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Overpowering hulk

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Overpowering hulk

Pft, for five seconds in a character whose whole deal is to become stronger with time. I guess that puts him around Abomination's strength class.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
And this
Apocalypse fights Prime Eternal Ikarus. His punch waylays Ikarus, while his bearhug proves inescapable to Ike. Ikarus's punch also doesn't hurt Apocalypse.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3.../apocmorph3.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3.../apocmorph4.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3.../apocmorph5.png

Also unaffected by a black bolt scream.

When has current Kal destroyed a planet with brute force alone.

He ripped Doomsday appart who is ridiculously above both Blackbolt and Ikarus for instance.

Apocalypse easily beat high evolutionary.

Apocalypse takes X-Factor, the Inhumans, (Black Bolt!) Askani/Rachael Summers, and Charlotte Jones w/big tech gun- hitting him with everything they had to no effect, he waded through it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3...n95/powers4

Has taken several of Cyclops full blast with no effect on him.

One shotting Magneto

Hell even the avengers had a hard time with him.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Apocalypse easily beat high evolutionary.

Apocalypse takes X-Factor, the Inhumans, (Black Bolt!) Askani/Rachael Summers, and Charlotte Jones w/big tech gun- hitting him with everything they had to no effect, he waded through it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3...n95/powers4

Has taken several of Cyclops full blast with no effect on him.

One shotting Magneto

Hell even the avengers had a hard time with him.

I know Apocalypse is not a pushover, he had a pretty nice battle against Young Thor recently which means he can trash heralds given the right motivation. But Kal is so above Young Thor without mjolnir it isn't even funny.

To say Apocalypse would cake walk either Diana or John or Hal at his best is also inflating his prowess. Even if he takes some wins, I wouldn't give him the majority.

Apocalypse pretty much just has better feas. Hell I'm just using physical feats. He could instantly put down superman via TP. His TP feats are better than Kals TP resistance.

Also the only thing Doomsday did was beat Wonderwoman. CCurrent superman can't even destroy a planet.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Apocalypse pretty much just has better feas. Hell I'm just using physical feats. He could instantly put down superman via TP. His TP feats are better than Kals TP resistance.

Currenty Kal? Maybe? But again, Apocalypse is the only character on his team with any kind of vaguely defined TP feats -I'd still like to see the issue number for that taking down Jean and Xavier-. He'd be hard pressed to mount a defense against both Martian Manhunter and Aquaman.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Also the only thing Doomsday did was beat Wonderwoman. CCurrent superman can't even destroy a planet.

Almost killing WW casually its no laughing matter. The second part is speculation.

Originally posted by Bentley
Currenty Kal? Maybe? But again, Apocalypse is the only character on his team with any kind of vaguely defined TP feats -I'd still like to see the issue number for that taking down Jean and Xavier-. He'd be hard pressed to mount a defense against both Martian Manhunter and Aquaman.

Almost killing WW casually its no laughing matter. The second part is speculation.

Apocalypse > manhunter>= Xaiver > Aquaman

TP wise

Black bolt with a whisper has been able to destroy state sized places. Apocalypse took full on screams and was unaffected.

Lets not forget he one shotted deathbird.

Also this
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocvsphoenix.png

Also what scan are you talking about?

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Apocalypse easily beat high evolutionary.

Apocalypse takes X-Factor, the Inhumans, (Black Bolt!) Askani/Rachael Summers, and Charlotte Jones w/big tech gun- hitting him with everything they had to no effect, he waded through it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3...n95/powers4

Has taken several of Cyclops full blast with no effect on him.

One shotting Magneto

Hell even the avengers had a hard time with him.

We would conveniently forget that he was amped in that instance or how Cyclops ripped him in half in the same comic, right?

When did Apoc oneshot magneto?

Apoc had no fights with Avengers as I recall.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Apocalypse > manhunter>= Xaiver > Aquaman

TP wise

Black bolt with a whisper has been able to destroy state sized places. Apocalypse took full on screams and was unaffected.

Lets not forget he one shotted deathbird.

Also this
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocvsphoenix.png

Also what scan are you talking about?

New Superman is outright immune to Brainiac's TP who mindcontrolled everyone on earth.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/4028188-superman-wonder+woman+%282013-%29+011-016.jpg

And FYI, the scene where Apoc blasts Xavier is from The Twelve where Apoc was hugely amped from X-man's psychic energy. So much context.....

Originally posted by abhilegend
And FYI, the scene where Apoc blasts Xavier is from The Twelve where Apoc was hugely amped from X-man's psychic energy. So much context.....

I imagined something like that, but never got answers about the issue #. If I recall correctly Apoc is not all that impressive in his old showings, that's why people ride the Blackbolt feat very hard (and bring showings that aren't all that impressive like his face off with Loki, the HE or Ikaris).

Wasn't that Phoenix who apocalypse mind blasted?

You also ignored him taking an attack from Phoenix without taking any damage.

Originally posted by X-Men Legends 1
Wasn't that Phoenix who apocalypse mind blasted?

You also ignored him taking an attack from Phoenix without taking any damage.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Jean was Phoenix in name only. She didn't have any phoenix force powers at that point.

That's lame 😬