So yeah, there was no reason to include, Juggernaut in this fight. It's unfortunate but the film version Juggernaut was pathetic There is no scenario that i can think of where, Juggernaut is a threat against Hulk or Thor even in a supporting role.
As for, Kurse, it's been a while since ive seen the movie but didn't Thor dish out as much as he received from, Kurse? I remember there was some kind of plot device that ultimately killed him but from what i remember, Kurse was fighting for his life against, Thor.
Well, we also know Juggernaut can burst out of being encased in concrete, relatively easily, and in a deleted scene, he was stabbed through his arm by Wolverine, which healed instantly after Logan pulled his claws out. Strengthwise you dont know, he never really lifted or bent anything, and the main guy he fought (Wolverine) isnt a powerhouse physically. Still, I think Cain would hold his own here, though hes still on the lower end of this list, IMO. As for Thor holding his own against Kurse, not too solidly, Kurse wound up beating him down pretty good, until Loki black-hole grenaded him.
Hulk and Thor will lose if they try to slug it out. Thor is both the weakest and strongest link. If they get into a slugfest he'll be the first one to get knocked out. If he plays it smart and allows Hulk to tank for him while he uses his other powers for full damage output then they can take care of team 1 fairly easily.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Juggernaut is the weak link.Having said that Kurse did beat the living shit out of Thor, and the later was pretty much helpless against him.
It all depends if Kurse's invulnerability to all things Asgardians translates to Hulk or not.
To be fair, Thor fought stupidly against Kurse. He fought smartly against Destroyer and look how easy that was for him. And really don't see Kurse defeating the Destroyer armor.
Originally posted by FrothByteIf we are to take the "Kurse" literally than the Destroyer Armor got nothing on Kurse.
To be fair, Thor fought stupidly against Kurse. He fought smartly against Destroyer and look how easy that was for him. And really don't see Kurse defeating the Destroyer armor.
Yeah Thor was kind of dumb against Kurse, but he didn't know what Kurse was capable of, and Kurse didn't give him much room to work with. Kurse punched Thor into a mountain. Threw a massive pillar on him and then punched the living shit out of him.
The destroyer just stood there spamming eye beams.
Originally posted by DTM
Well, we also know Juggernaut can burst out of being encased in concrete, relatively easily, and in a deleted scene, he was stabbed through his arm by Wolverine, which healed instantly after Logan pulled his claws out. Strengthwise you dont know, he never really lifted or bent anything, and the main guy he fought (Wolverine) isnt a powerhouse physically. Still, I think Cain would hold his own here, though hes still on the lower end of this list, IMO. As for Thor holding his own against Kurse, not too solidly, Kurse wound up beating him down pretty good, until Loki black-hole grenaded him.
Look, as much as I like, Juggernaut he has absolutely nothing to bring to the table here. He wouldn't be able to hold Thor or Hulk off for any amount of time. Perhaps in a larger team where he wasn't depended on to fend off one other top tier hero he may be a benefit.
I know He doesn't need to be able to beat Thor or Hulk, just hold one off until, Kurse kills the other but he is just entirely outclassed.
Kurse can probably kill both Thor and the Hulk but that doesn't seem to crucial to me in this scenario because I don't see why either Thor or Hulk can't handle him until Juggernaut is dropped.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
If we are to take the "Kurse" literally than the Destroyer Armor got nothing on Kurse.Yeah Thor was kind of dumb against Kurse, but he didn't know what Kurse was capable of, and Kurse didn't give him much room to work with. Kurse punched Thor into a mountain. Threw a massive pillar on him and then punched the living shit out of him.
The destroyer just stood there spamming eye beams.
Agreed, and if Thor tried the tornado and charge to the face, Kurse would just swat him away like a fly.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yea I could see Juggs running through Hulk or Thor while they try to stop him, but I don't see that doing any significant damage, but it could be enough to keep one of them busy while Kurse goes to town.
I don't deny that but le's consider how much damage fatigue that would cause the Hulk or Thor. Both will easily be able to recover from Juggs attacks. It's Thors' and Hulks attacks that i don't see Juggs recovering very easily from.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
If we are to take the "Kurse" literally than the Destroyer Armor got nothing on Kurse.Yeah Thor was kind of dumb against Kurse, but he didn't know what Kurse was capable of, and Kurse didn't give him much room to work with. Kurse punched Thor into a mountain. Threw a massive pillar on him and then punched the living shit out of him.
The destroyer just stood there spamming eye beams.
All of this considered, didn't Thor push Kurse to his limits all while taking everything he had to offer?