Mace Windu vs. Orbalisk Bane, Reborn Krayt, Darth Malgus, and Exar Kun

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
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You're acting a if Vaapad somehow even adds a fraction of the opponent's power level to your own. I've also seen zero showings of it helping in the Force department, where he is completely outmatched here when facing four different people.

And maybe you're not reading the OP. He has Palpatine's base amp as well as the additional amps from the Sith. His TK in OCW blew open durasteel tanks, he can one shot any one of the Sith with TK alone as well as potentially blitz them.

Originally posted by carthage
And maybe you're not reading the OP. He has Palpatine's base amp as well as the additional amps from the Sith. His TK in OCW blew open durasteel tanks, he can one shot any one of the Sith with TK alone as well as potentially blitz them.

Windu's amp from Palpatine did him little Force-wise, and neither will the much weaker "amps" here, not that they'll be "combined" in any fashion. And even with his "OCW" feats, he still exists pass that point and has dueled passed that point, so you really aren't accomplishing anything by adding them here when they were never removed in the first place.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Maybe you're not reading the part where I said that doesn't matter. 😬

Windu's amp from Palpatine did him little Force-wise, and neither will the much weaker "amps" here, not that they'll be "combined" in any fashion. And even with his "OCW" feats, he still exists pass that point and has dueled passed that point, so you really aren't accomplishing anything by adding them here when they were never removed in the first place.

His TK feats surpass anything from the Sith, he's faster, and can easily blitz them at any point in time. You're not really accomplishing anything by not acknowledging the fact that even at base speed with his amp, he's already moving faster than the Sith can perceive. With any additional amp adding to that (Vaapad loop), he is going to blinkstomp the Sith.

Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind—the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.

The shadow he fought, that blur of speed—could that be Palpatine?

Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them—but he could feel them in the Force. The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent. And it was darkening.

That's only with his amp from Palpatine. Unless you have feats for Malgus or Kun that suggest they can even do anything other than perceive him in the force, they're dead. Again he's being actively amped by them through Vaapad as per the OP. If you don't like the parameters go post elsewhere.

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Sidious couldn't blitz Savage, you think he can blitz these Sith?

He was toying with them in that fight, laughing and enjoying battling with them and not even trying. When he got serious Maul saw more blades than he could perceive. If he wanted to one shot either of them he could've done so just like he did to Tiin and Kolar

Originally posted by carthage
[B]His TK feats surpass anything from the Sith, he's faster, and can easily blitz them at any point in time. You're not really accomplishing anything by not acknowledging the fact that even at base speed with his amp, he's already moving faster than the Sith can perceive. With any additional amp adding to that (Vaapad loop), he is going to blinkstomp the Sith.

That's only with his amp from Palpatine. Unless you have feats for Malgus or Kun that suggest they can even do anything other than perceive him in the force, they're dead. Again he's being actively amped by them through Vaapad as per the OP. If you don't like the parameters go post elsewhere.

So does this mean Mace starts off with the Sidious amp and then gets another one because of vapaad or do you mean his vapaad amp is at levels of when he faced Sidious?

If its the former, Mace may have a chance. If it's the latter you don't know how vapaad works.

He's starting off with Sidious's amp right at the start of the match and gains additional ones on top of the amp from Sidious

LOL Bane alone could give Windu one hell of a fight, add Exar Kun, Reborn Krayt and Emperor Malgus?! lol this is spite.

Krayt utilizes Dark Transfer, fight is over.

Originally posted by carthage
He was toying with them in that fight, laughing and enjoying battling with them and not even trying. When he got serious Maul saw more blades than he could perceive. If he wanted to one shot either of them he could've done so just like he did to Tiin and Kolar

Even then, Sidious in his fight with Windu was far stronger than the Sidious vs Maul.

In his fight with Maul he only brought enough to bear to kill Maul whilst trying to not draw massive attention by exerting all his power.

In his fight with Windu, both were at their limits.

But again, with the force there's no way Windu can win.

Originally posted by carthage
He was toying with them in that fight, laughing and enjoying battling with them and not even trying. When he got serious Maul saw more blades than he could perceive. If he wanted to one shot either of them he could've done so just like he did to Tiin and Kolar

Bull crap speculative statement with zero proof to back it up.

As for the description of Maul seeing too many lightsabers to count and getting blitz... Happened completely different in the actual episode.

In fact in that final fight, Maul was displaying equal speed to Sidious.

You guys are funny.

Try comparing Windu's OCW feats to those of Orbalisk Bane. ROFLAMO. Bane is one-shotted.

The rest don't fare any better. Remember when Sidious manhandled the B-team in like five seconds? This Windu has his base that let him match that Sidious, + feats from the most haxxed series in the mythos, + more vaapad off of each of these jokers. That they have four (or three, after Bane is one shotted) lightsabers means jack shit if they're all moving in slow motion compared to him.