Darth Zannah vs Revan Reborn

Started by Nephthys18 pages
Originally posted by ares834
Revan shoved the Emperor on his ass. The same guy who brought down a temple, that unlike the one Bane brought down, wasn't near collapsing.

No, he didn't. And the one Bane destroyed wasn't near collapsing. Bane specifically noted that the stone was "pristine... neither worn nor cracked despite its age."

You mean the staircase was. Yes?

Also massive dark side nexus.

"He shook his head to clear it. The dark side was strong here, so strong it made him feel light-headed."

"'The dark side is strong here. Far stronger than it ever was on Korriban.'"

And nope, Revan sent the Emperor flying across the room to land on his ass.

Originally posted by ares834
You mean the staircase was. Yes?

Also massive dark side nexus.

"He shook his head to clear it. The dark side was strong here, so strong it made him feel light-headed."

"'The dark side is strong here. Far stronger than it ever was on Korriban.'"

And nope, Revan sent the Emperor flying across the room to land on his ass.

The staircase and the temple are made of the same stone.

I never denied the nexus (though Bane is never mentioned drawing on it). Bane also powered up his force wave. But it's still immensely impressive for Bane in his weakest incarnation, the temple was enormous.

Revan didn't shove him over though. He created an explosion in front of a distracted Vitiate who had most of his power diverted, causing him to go flying. So maybe Revan can make Zannah fall over too if she gets distracted by a ****in' butterfly or something.

PoD is Bane's weakest incarnation, but as far as I can tell Bane's raw power remained pretty stagnant throughout the series, only changing drastically with the addition of the Orbalisks.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Revan didn't shove him over though. He created an explosion in front of a distracted Vitiate who had most of his power diverted, causing him to go flying. So maybe Revan can make Zannah fall over too if she gets distracted by a ****in' butterfly or something.

Cool story. I'm curious when did Zannah shoved Bane against the wall? Got a quote? In one of her duels with Bane it specifically states that she would be incapable of doing so as Bane could defend against it so clearly she did not overpower him either.

It was during the stone prison fight.

Got the quote?

Not at home right now.

"He began to gather the dark side, the power slowly building. But before he could unleash it he was hit by a wall of thunderous force rolling out from a corridor to his left. Instinctively he threw up a defensive shield, absorbing the blow. Despite this, he was slammed against the opposite wall, knocking the breath from his lungs."

So he was caught off guard when he wasn't even dueling Zannah and didn't even know she was there...

😂

And he had built up his power beforehand. Plus she hit him with a Force Wave instead of a focused attack. I never claimed her TK > his, only that this clearly indicates parity.

😂

Maybe if Revan conveniently forgets he is fighting Zannah she can knock him against a wall.

Quality debating right here. Sure, laugh because you can't contradict me. It's totally not transparent at all. 👆

I don't have to contradict anything considering he didn't even know she was there let alone that she would attack.

But the fact that the text does note (and during the same duel I believe) that TK attacks will be useless eviscerates your already dying "argument".

So what? He got a barrier up before the attack. You can argue that it was weaker because he was surprised but he'd been amping before that point so that clearly off-sets that factor, plus her attack wasn't focused.

In that it only further establishes they're equal in TK, sure. 😉

Originally posted by Nephthys
You can argue that it was weaker because he was surprised but he'd been amping before that point so that clearly off-sets that factor,

Based on what? The fact that the novel clearly states TK will be ineffective shows that it is something that wouldnt normally happen. So no, it does not "clearly off-sets that factor".

Edit: sorry about typos on phone.

Well actually she was talking about Bane when she said that, so she was only saying Bane's TK would be ineffective. Plus I'd say having to expend the effort of breaking through their force shields and only managing to knock them back a bit IS ineffective. It doesn't mean Zannah couldn't manage to push Bane back slightly again, or vice versa.

I'd post the quote but I can't access if right now.

"There was also his incredible command of the Force to contend with. Simple tactics like pushing an opponent from across the room were impractical against any foe with proper training. Both she and Bane knew how to surround themselves with an invisible field of energy that absorbed or repelled the most basic tricks taught to any Jedi or Sith. But Bane could unleash devastating bolts of dark side lightning from his hands almost at will."

It says they can absorb such attacks, but the above quote also said Bane absorbed Zannah's attack, yet was still smacked into the wall. And it says it would be impractical, not impossible.

Except Bane got slammed against the wall and breath knocked out of his lungs. That seems pretty damn effective to me.

Bane recovered instantly.