Batman vs Goku

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I read the OP. Stats equalized and H2H.

Does not change Goku winning by being faster and stronger.

Originally posted by NemeBro
How is Goku stronger and faster despite their stats being equalized?

Goku can at a whim multiply his physical stats. Batman, as far as I know, cannot.

"Stats are equalized, fight is hand to hand"
"Goku is faster and stronger"

nvm

Originally posted by NemeBro
nvm

The OP does not exclude transformations and typically the characters start in their base form. Based solely on the OP Goku would win.

English Majors care not for intent, only what is written. If the thread maker were to exclude the forms, thereby further gimping a character, then Batman would win.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
The OP does not exclude transformations and typically the characters start in their base form. Based solely on the OP Goku would win.

English Majors care not for intent, only what is written. If the thread maker were to exclude the forms, thereby further gimping a character, then Batman would win.

Because that is all that's seemingly allowed, per the actual text. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
In what way is turning Super Saiyan a hand to hand maneuver?

Because that is all that's seemingly allowed, per the actual text. 👆

In the same way that tightening your muscles is a hand to hand maneuver.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
In the same way that tightening your muscles is a hand to hand maneuver.

Originally posted by NemeBro
By that rationale using Ki blasts to vaporize continents would also be allowed. 👇

Unless Goku was weakened to Batman's level. Regardless, the update called for no ki.

Aura might have a point with SSJ increase, because it would effectively imbalance their stats, but I guess it's just whatever.

Originally posted by NemeBro
By that rationale using Ki blasts to vaporize continents would also be allowed. 👇

Well the thread maker later prohibited Ki blasts so one would figure those would naturally be disqualified.

If the OP or thread maker had said "no Ki usage of any kind" then I could see the argument. But I find it hard to believe that the thread maker wants us to exclude Ki manipulation as that is the basis for Goku's H2H combat.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Stats equalized

H2H

Who wins?

Why you nerfing Batman so much?

In a world where speed and strength are not stats.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Well the thread maker later prohibited Ki blasts so one would figure those would naturally be disqualified.

H2H would already tell you that thier is no ki blast.

Originally posted by ares834
Why you nerfing Batman so much?

Had it just said hand to hand super Saiyan would be worth bringing up.

But a fight where the stips are equal stats obviously means nothing that goes against the stips and makes them not have equal stats as it defeats the whole point.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tls-Jli6eQE
Class 50 humans IRL, you heard it here first.

WHEELS: Better than Super Strength!

That is completely different than what Hercule did. Just stop.

By the way, Goku stomps even with the stats being the same.

Who has he beaten with just hand to hand skill?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Who has he beaten with just hand to hand skill?

General Tao.

Originally posted by TripKawkens
He beat General Tao after getting a stat increase, not by out skilling him.

Come back when Goku beats someone who's faster and stronger than he is, until then he gets his shit pushed in.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Stats equalized