Superboy prime vs The Avengers

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I agree heavily that Thanos > Gaurdians.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I agree heavily that Thanos > Gaurdians.

Who would win Thanos or Luther Strode?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anti Monitor was weakened and would maul Prime in a straight up fight. One guardian overpowered Prime and scared the crap out of him. Thanos would rape the little blue midgets.

Thanos doesn't let midgets overpower him. Get serious.

The Anti-Monitor still have enough anti-matter to destroy countless beings. Prime Tanked it.

The Anti-Monitor would've incinerated Thanos.

Squirrel Girl is only an inch taller than Ganthet and she beat Thanos.

Semi-midget> Thanos

Probably Prime.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol. Question. If Prime punch Hulk into space, would you consider that bfr?

Another question. If Prime punch Hulk into another state, would you consider that bfring (or another country, doesn't matter)?

Depends. Can Hulk make it back to punch Prime? Or perhaps hurl asteroids from space? IOW, affect Prime in any way?

Same answer. Can he affect the outcome of the battle? A good example is Thor. Punch him into space, he could either portal back, fly back, summon storms remotely, throw Mjolnir etc etc....

BFR can be a win in itself, unless the OP specifies otherwise.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
BFR can be a win in itself, unless the OP specifies otherwise.

True.

My point was what if SBP pushed the planet into the Sun?

Now, sure, if he just started pushing it in front of the other guys, they'd start wailing on him.

So what if he flew away to some other part of the planet (Africa or whatever) and pushed from there? I doubt the team would be able to find him in time, considering he was able to move so quickly, no one knew he pushed Rann/Thanagar.

Carver's rebuttal was, if he flies away, that's self-BFR.

My counterpoint was, what are the limits of the battlefield? OP didn't say, and considering BFR is defined as being forcibly removed from the battlefield and UNABLE to return under their own power in a suitable length of time, I argue this ISN'T BFR at all, as SBP can easily fly back in the blink of an eye (we all know his speed feats). Therefore, with contestants like this, the battlefield is not just 500m square.

SBP Stomps

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True.

My point was what if SBP pushed the planet into the Sun?

Now, sure, if he just started pushing it in front of the other guys, they'd start wailing on him.

So what if he flew away to some other part of the planet (Africa or whatever) and pushed from there? I doubt the team would be able to find him in time, considering he was able to move so quickly, no one knew he pushed Rann/Thanagar.

Carver's rebuttal was, if he flies away, that's self-BFR.

My counterpoint was, what are the limits of the battlefield? OP didn't say, and considering BFR is defined as being forcibly removed from the battlefield and UNABLE to return under their own power in a suitable length of time, I argue this ISN'T BFR at all, as SBP can easily fly back in the blink of an eye (we all know his speed feats). Therefore, with contestants like this, the battlefield is not just 500m square.

Well I think in that scenario Thor could teleport them all away, as long as they realized what was happening in time. But yeah it's a viable tactic, as long as they realize they are in a fight with SBP, and are aware of the kind of ridiculous s*** he can do, and that he's crazy enough to do it!

Although it still would be a bit of a cheap shot to say the least.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Although it still would be a bit of a cheap shot to say the least.

Welcome to my world.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anti Monitor was weakened and would maul Prime in a straight up fight. One guardian overpowered Prime and scared the crap out of him. Thanos would rape the little blue midgets.

Thanos doesn't let midgets overpower him. Get serious.

I find it funny that the Anti-Monitor gets cited as weakened when a measly anti-matter bomb (so small that it affected only Thanos) reduced the titan to bones.

It's safe to assume that the same incarnation of Thanos would be reduced to an skeleton if it went through the AM like Prime did 👆

SENTRY solos... SMP is literally nothing to him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends. Can Hulk make it back to punch Prime? Or perhaps hurl asteroids from space? IOW, affect Prime in any way?

Same answer. Can he affect the outcome of the battle? A good example is Thor. Punch him into space, he could either portal back, fly back, summon storms remotely, throw Mjolnir etc etc....

Rules per Digi...

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

How big is the battlefield? Rules per Digi...

Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.

If Prime goes any further than that it's self bfr. If he tries this within this range, he gets pounded on.

Cool.

So if SBP gets punched far away (very likely, after all, Sentry etc are VERY strong), in character, he will lose his temper.

'You'll see!!! I'll destroy this stupid Earth, you call yourselves heroes but you're nothing but monsters!'

Then pushes the Earth into the Sun 👆

Not BFR, as he was able to push Rann/Thanagar etc around extremely quickly, AND he's still able to return at any point back under his own power.

You 'rules' don't say anything about the battlefield being limited to the 500m, btw, just to point out. It only states that's the STARTING distance between them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool.

So if SBP gets punched far away (very likely, after all, Sentry etc are VERY strong), in character, he will lose his temper.

'You'll see!!! I'll destroy this stupid Earth, you call yourselves heroes but you're nothing but monsters!'

Then pushes the Earth into the Sun 👆

Not BFR, as he was able to push Rann/Thanagar etc around extremely quickly, AND he's still able to return at any point back under his own power.

You 'rules' don't say anything about the battlefield being limited to the 500m, btw, just to point out. It only states that's the STARTING distance between them.

It does state if the character leaves the battlefield it is self bfr but we can get a mod ruling if you want.

Originally posted by carver9
It does state if the character leaves the battlefield it is self bfr but we can get a mod ruling if you want.

But my point was someone punches him away....so he's not leaving on purpose. Where's the self- in that?

Originally posted by Bentley
I find it funny that the Anti-Monitor gets cited as weakened when a measly anti-matter bomb (so small that it affected only Thanos) reduced the titan to bones.

It's safe to assume that the same incarnation of Thanos would be reduced to an skeleton if it went through the AM like Prime did 👆

Thanos was weakened in that instance as well. Funny how you ignore context left and right in both arcs. Do you not know what the word weakened means or are you just ignorant ?

But let's pick and choose like you. It is safe to say Thanos tanks the attacks from the Teen Titans which put Prime into an induced coma.

The Avengers wreck this guy. The showings where he was impressive had him evading the stronger teams to eventually always be beaten. A far less impressive team just beat him down straight up with relative ease.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But my point was someone punches him away....so he's not leaving on purpose. Where's the self- in that?

Per the rules if he doesn't make it back in time it count as a win.

Originally posted by carver9
Per the rules if he doesn't make it back in time it count as a win.

REASONABLE time.

So, how long do you think it would take him? We all know his speed feats, so that shouldn't be an issue.

And what counts as reasonable time? Five minutes? 15? 30 minutes?

Originally posted by carver9
It does state if the character leaves the battlefield it is self bfr but we can get a mod ruling if you want.

Not sure if that applies if they're leaving to do an immediate counterattack.

Of course the Mod would have to clear that up.

In any case Thor can teleport this team anyway, so I don't see then sense in arguing it out, unless you just want to establish ground rules for future versus battles.