Hulk, Hulk, Hulk, Hulk vs Superman

Started by riv667219 pages

Originally posted by Star428
He did it to OWAW Doomsday didn't he? Are you implying that Hulk is more durable than one of the most powerful versions of Doomsday?

My post was in response to DARTH POWER thinking you and the others will stop using CIS off based arguments.

Still, since you asked, no, i'm not implying the Hulk is more powerful than DD. I'm saying it.

You seem to be implying, maybe even saying, 4 Hulks arent.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Because CIS is on.

As shown in Comics with CIS On.


Are you new or something?

They're fighting to the best of their abilities, which means that you'll need somewhere around Superman's speed to actually tag him.

There aren't exactly a wealth of incidents where Superman's fighting his best, and getting tagged by people like the Hulk...

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Savage Hulk is still here, who was always "The Strongest one there is" on Marvel Earth. With 4 Hulks combined, I don't see anything like that happening.

Ah yes, meaningless and faulty hyperbole!

So nothing then?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I only see the Hulks defeated by BFR.

That's ridiculous.

They've been knocked out and defeated soooo many times.

Spider-man's got like two legit wins against Savage Hulk.

Superman swinging his sonic-boom haymakers would destroy these guys.

Originally posted by riv6672
My post was in response to DARTH POWER thinking you and the others will stop using CIS off based arguments.

Still, since you asked, no, i'm not implying the Hulk is more powerful than DD. I'm saying it.

You seem to be implying, maybe even saying, 4 Hulks arent.

I'm still unsure when DCnU Superman met OWAW Doomsday. Otherwise, his comparison is utterly faulty.

Best of their abilities is not CIS off. Otherwise there wouldnt be a distinction.

And if Superman has never been knocked out and defeated, thats a great argument on your part.
So basically, your argument is meh.

Edit:
Faulty is about the nicest way to put it, yeah.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Are you new or something?

No I just understand the rules better than you seem to.

Originally posted by krisblaze
They're fighting to the best of their abilities, which means that you'll need somewhere around Superman's speed to actually tag him.

Fighting to the best of their abilities, AS SHOWN IN COMICS. Not how you perceive them to be.

And they still fight IN CHARACTER. Fighting to the best of their abilities does not mean Invisible speed and Speed Blitz combo right from the Onset and for the Entire duration of the fight.

Otherwise all Hulk vs Thor threads would be very very short, as it would just be Thor Zaps Hulk to a Hell dimension. /Thread.

Only problem there is, how on Earth does that aid in discussing comic book fights, considering Thor's never done that to Hulk in their countless fights.

Originally posted by krisblaze
There aren't exactly a wealth of incidents where Superman's fighting his best, and getting tagged by people like the Hulk...

Sure there are.

Grundy, Mongul, Doomsday. Heck even Darkseid when it comes to the H2H parts of their fights.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Ah yes, meaningless and faulty hyperbole!

So nothing then?

It means he's stronger than the likes of Gladiator and Hyperion which he's even proven in combat.

If you want feats you can do a feat war with someone like Carver. I really can't be arsed with this thread, especially with the ridiculousness of it.

I've already admitted they can be BFR'd 1 by 1. If you want to get into a lengthy power discussion do it with someone else. But personally I find it laughable that Superman's going to rip 4 Hulk's in half.

Originally posted by krisblaze
That's ridiculous.

They've been knocked out and defeated soooo many times.

Spider-man's got like two legit wins against Savage Hulk.

CIS is On. Not PIS.

I'm certain Superman has low showings which can be used to Lowball him, but I'm not going to stoop down to that level to carry on this discussion. You can play that game with someone else.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Superman swinging his sonic-boom haymakers would destroy these guys.

Yeah sure buddy.

What low showings does DCNU Superman have? He's pure consistency.

Full potential does mean that they clock their opponent at superspeed at the beginning of the fight 😐

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Do you even ****ing read the current Superman comics?

For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

I checked the OP just to make sure, and damn this isnt Superman Vs 4 Hulks.

The example in the rules is about super speed used by a super speedster, not a character who has super speed suddenly becoming a super speed centric character.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah by Thor. And even then it was a last resort, not an opening move.

But with 4 Hulk's here yeah I do have doubts over Superman's ability to do so in that scenario.

Spider-Man BFRed Hulk by punching him into orbit during his Captain Universe days.

Originally posted by riv6672
This is interesting, as one Hulk is enough to go toe to toe with Superman, but quadrupling the number of Hulks seems to have done the same to every power, ability, and CIS/PIS induced fighting ability and tactic Superman has.
😂

It's not unheard of for a solo character to fight smarter than normal against a team.

Originally posted by Stoic
You're going to have to prove that the Hulk's would become statues. The green Scar (WW Hulk) was more than able to fight the Sentry. His blitz was useless. This shows that he can at the very least, react to Super fast characters. We have been through this many times. What happens on panel is where we get the idea that characters like the Hulk, and Thanos are capable of hitting super fast characters. What you present is merely opinion, while ignoring what happens on panel.

Sentry was not speed-blitzing Hulk.

Originally posted by krisblaze
This is DCNU Superman.

And Superman beat Mongul easily after this sneak-attack failed.

And Mongul couldn't touch Superman in Ending battle.

Wait, you previously posted Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman stuff then argue it's DCnU Superman?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Wait, you previously posted Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman stuff then argue it's DCnU Superman?

I only referenced his fight with the elite, and then retracted it later when I realized that it was DCNU 🙂

Originally posted by riv6672
My post was in response to DARTH POWER thinking you and the others will stop using CIS off based arguments.

Still, since you asked, no, i'm not implying the Hulk is more powerful than DD. I'm saying it.

You seem to be implying, maybe even saying, 4 Hulks arent.

LOL. I never said or implied 4 Hulks aren't. Don't know where you get that idea from. I asked if you thought ONE Hulk was more powerful NOT FOUR. You say he is more powerful than probably the most powerful version of DD. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinion but I certainly don't agree with it. 🙂

People who try to quantify Hulk are afraid to use real arguments.

They hope that people will consider 4 Hulks some kind of overwhelming odds that can't be beaten.

Truth is that Green Scar and Savage Hulk are on a completely different plane from Professor Hulk and Grey Hulk.

Originally posted by Star428
You're entitled to your opinion but I certainly don't agree with it. 🙂

Thats about as fair as fair can be! 👆

Originally posted by krisblaze
I only referenced his fight with the elite, and then retracted it later when I realized that it was DCNU 🙂

You gave a link to the Superman Respect Thread for Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman(although some people have wrongly posted New 52 stuff). I believe it was before you cited ACTION COMICS #775.

Jeez, I know star has me on ignore so can't see this...

But why is he talking about OWAW Doomsday????

Originally posted by krisblaze
I only referenced his fight with the elite, and then retracted it later when I realized that it was DCNU 🙂

🙄

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jeez, I know star has me on ignore so can't see this...

But why is he talking about OWAW Doomsday????

Now he can see it. You're welcome DS.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You gave a link to the Superman Respect Thread for Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman(although some people have wrongly posted New 52 stuff). I believe it was before you cited ACTION COMICS #775.

I thought it was a combined respect thread, as I've seen a ton of new 52 stuff there.

There's no catalogue of New 52 Superman's feats?

Maybe I should start one, Abhi seems to have completely given up 😎

Originally posted by krisblaze
I thought it was a combined respect thread, as I've seen a ton of new 52 stuff there.

There's no catalogue of New 52 Superman's feats?

Maybe I should start one, Abhi seems to have completely given up 😎

Just because people have posted New 52 stuff doesn't make it combined. It means people are wrong. Pr and others have talked about making a separate one for New 52, but I don't think it got anywhere.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Just because people have posted New 52 stuff doesn't make it combined. It means people are wrong. Pr and others have talked about making a separate one for New 52, but I don't think it got anywhere.

Ok.

And I take it no one here repping Hulk reads Superman/Justice League comics?

Read them, yes. Worship them, no.