Goku, Luffy, Kang, Naruto, Usagi & Ichigo vs The Justice League

Originally posted by yungz22
how is goku universe level again?

Dende: "...causing space around him to warp! - At this rate the walls between dimensions will break down, and other dimensions will rush through!"

Vegito: "If I don't stop him, this universe will be crushed by alternate dimensions!"

Now even though all of this came from a special ability, not raw power, people confuse Buu's actual force for Universal.. even though all Buu is doing is creating a rip that creates a chain reaction leading to other dimensions to flood in. Its a secondary feat like summoning or assistance.

This chain reaction is only applicable to one specific screaming move, not any attacks.

What the hell is Black Canary doing in that lineup?

Specify Green Lantern?

Wrong forum.

Originally posted by BloodRain
In the anime, after being trounced, Buuhan lets out a scream that begins to mess reality around them. Dende announces that if this keeps up different realities will crash through the rips and into ours.

Dende: "...causing space around him to warp! - At this rate the walls between dimensions will break down, and other dimensions will rush through!"

Vegito: "If I don't stop him, this universe will be crushed by alternate dimensions!"

Now even though all of this came from a special ability, not raw power, people confuse Buu's actual force for Universal.. even though all Buu is doing is creating a rip that creates a chain reaction leading to other dimensions to flood in. Its a secondary feat like summoning or assistance.

This chain reaction is only applicable to one specific screaming move, not any attacks.

Again, this has nothing to do with special abilities.

Dende said it was, "the same" as when he broke through dimensions in the ROSAT. Gotenks did the same thing. This means that ANY of the Saiyan's can replicate this attack, considering it is a SIMPLE KIAI.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Again, this has nothing to do with special abilities.

Dende said it was, "the same" as when he broke through dimensions in the ROSAT. Gotenks did the same thing. This means that ANY of the Saiyan's can replicate this attack, considering it is a SIMPLE KIAI.

It's not that it's a special ability like Buu's candy beam, but it's special as in this chain reaction is a specific effect of the vice shout and nothing more.

Of course if you like you can debate that Goku uses a vice shout to the degree that Buu did in an attempt to crash verses together.. but you'd have these points to deal with;
-It's polar opposite for Goku's character to permanently kill all life, so OoC bloodlust would need to 've specified in the OP.
-A character could, as demonstrated, just hit him in this 5 minute window and break the effect.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You've misunderstood.

It's not that it's a special ability like Buu's candy beam, but it's special as in this chain reaction is a specific effect of the vice shout and nothing more.

Of course if you like you can debate that Goku uses a vice shout to the degree that Buu did in an attempt to crash verses together.. but you'd have these points to deal with;
-It's polar opposite for Goku's character to permanently kill all life, so OoC bloodlust would need to 've specified in the OP.
-A character could, as demonstrated, just hit him in this 5 minute window and break the effect.

No, you've misunderstood.

That literally has nothing to do with this. All you're doing is suggesting that the cause is different. Either way though, it is still Buu that's destroying the multiverse, as he's the one who produced the shout. Again, no one in any of these series can do anything close to that. All the point you made does, is change Goku from multiverse level, to multiverse reaction level with one shout... WHICH IS STILL MULTIVERSE LEVEL, FOR GOD SAKE.

1. Usually vs. threads don't get this specific. They are in an empty universe here. Just planets, stars and plants, etc. No sentient life. The reason for this is so there is no outside interference. Otherwise, TOAA would show up and erase them all. Either way though, if he has multiverse potency with a shout, then he can easily reproduce the same potency in a punch, making everyone he touches vanish.

2. What character could do that? What you're saying here is that a shout is more powerful than a barrier constructed to keep others out. That's stupid. Anyway, none of the characters here can break through a multiverse+ potency barrier. Sooo, yeah.

Originally posted by BloodRain
In the anime, after being trounced, Buuhan lets out a scream that begins to mess reality around them. Dende announces that if this keeps up different realities will crash through the rips and into ours.

Dende: "...causing space around him to warp! - At this rate the walls between dimensions will break down, and other dimensions will rush through!"

Vegito: "If I don't stop him, this universe will be crushed by alternate dimensions!"

Now even though all of this came from a special ability, not raw power, people confuse Buu's actual force for Universal.. even though all Buu is doing is creating a rip that creates a chain reaction leading to other dimensions to flood in. Its a secondary feat like summoning or assistance.

This chain reaction is only applicable to one specific screaming move, not any attacks.

And also buuhan was stopped and it doesnt happen instantly it takes a while the league would be able to stop something like that from happening

Originally posted by yungz22
Buuhan doing that wasnt canon right?

And also buuhan was stopped and it doesnt happen instantly it takes a while the league would be able to stop something like that from happening

It was. It happened in both versions of the anime. It wasn't filler either, like the days before the cell games.

Refer to above posts.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
It was. It happened in both versions of the anime. It wasn't filler either, like the days before the cell games.

Refer to above posts.

Ooh ok jus askin

Originally posted by yungz22
Ooh ok jus askin

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Originally posted by SSJGGogeta

Also, the anime was made by Akira Toriyama, making it as cannon as the manga. Again, as I said before, there are two kinds of cannon for DBZ. Anime, and Manga. Either way though, both sources of cannon have Goku at much higher than Sailor Moon. Kid Buu could destroy entire galaxies at once in the manga. He was nothing compared to Super Buu, who was nothing compared to Buutenks, who was nothing compared to Buuhan, who was nothing compared to Base Vegetto, who was 50 times weaker than Super Vegetto, who is weaker than SSJG Goku. You see my point here? Scaling alone, that's AT THE BARE MINIMUM at least multi-galaxy to universe level for SSJG Goku. Which makes sense. Bills can bust universal quadrants just by feeling angry.

The anime was created by Toei, not Toriyama himself. Not to mention, Kai removed a good chunk of the filler to make it more accurate to the manga. What does that tell you? It's just an adaptation and nothing more. Toriyama didn't direct or animate any part of it.

Whis is also stronger than Bills and Bills was only stated to be at best a galaxy buster, according to Dragon Ball Wikia. Hardly a destroyer of "universal quadrants".

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No, you've misunderstood.

That literally has nothing to do with this. All you're doing is suggesting that the cause is different. Either way though, it is still Buu that's destroying the multiverse, as he's the one who produced the shout. Again, no one in any of these series can do anything close to that. All the point you made does, is change Goku from multiverse level, to multiverse reaction level with one shout... WHICH IS STILL MULTIVERSE LEVEL, FOR GOD SAKE.

1. Usually vs. threads don't get this specific. They are in an empty universe here. Just planets, stars and plants, etc. No sentient life. The reason for this is so there is no outside interference. Otherwise, TOAA would show up and erase them all. Either way though, if he has multiverse potency with a shout, then he can easily reproduce the same potency in a punch, making everyone he touches vanish.

2. What character could do that? What you're saying here is that a shout is more powerful than a barrier constructed to keep others out. That's stupid. Anyway, none of the characters here can break through a multiverse+ potency barrier. Sooo, yeah.

Must be great with such simple paths. Logic this if you will. Buu could only make the rip with the scream. Gotenks could only make the rip with the scream. Buuhan could only make the rip with the scream, which Dende refers back to the ROSAT scream. But for some sreason you read that as "any attack can do this!"? A charayer using a move to bfr can apply that to every attack, nor could anyone else using as move that create this specific aftereffects. As said, dimensions don't have durability, so not matter how you try you couldn't get a DC from its own power. All you have us the effect from a specific move. Enjoy.

1. Don't even need to counter. Just need to sit here and watch you prove Multiversal level punches.

2. Another easy one. Prove the barriers durability with evidence and scans.

Edit: Muliverse punches has to top every DB post ol' Carv's has ever made combined. GG.

Originally posted by Esomark
The anime was created by Toei, not Toriyama himself. Not to mention, Kai removed a good chunk of the filler to make it more accurate to the manga. What does that tell you? It's just an adaptation and nothing more. Toriyama didn't direct or animate any part of it.

Whis is also stronger than Bills and Bills was only stated to be at best a galaxy buster, according to Dragon Ball Wikia. Hardly a destroyer of "universal quadrants".

The anime was animated by Toei. Akira still deeply involved in the creation, and supervision. Kai ended at the Cell saga, iirc. It sucked anyway, with all the censors it put in.

The word Whiss used was Shihanki. This means "quarter", roughly translated, but in context can be read as "quadrant". Bills can destroy QUADRANTS, and just by getting angry, according to Whiss's statement. That's even less than the action of yelling. Either way though, this is besides the point. Bills isn't allowed to destroy that much at a time anyway. Whiss knocked him out for three years for destroying a solar system that they weren't supposed to.