Originally posted by carthage
I've never seen POD Bane hurl tons of boulders and bury a Jedi master with the flick of his wrist, lift 12 Obelisks that weigh tons each, ragdoll powerful force users, break a bridge with TK, collapse a ceiling, break balconies, break a crane.
Originally posted by carthage
Bane's lightning is nothing special, it can be absorbed by a lightsaber. FL in general is nothing any powerful opponent need worry about.
Originally posted by Q99
For cyborgs, we've got Irek Ismaren, Grievous, Vader, and Malgus.
Wouldn't Lumiya also be on that list of Cyborgs? nothing trying to be an ass, i'm genuinely curious if she is considered a cyborg because of her extensive enhancements is all, sorry if i came across like that.
Originally posted by Gods Son
Malgus isn't a cyborg lol. More usual BS from Q99
Wow, did you miss the big cybernetic respirator he has somehow? That's permanently installed, you know, it's not just as mask.
Fated XtasyWouldn't Lumiya also be on that list of Cyborgs? nothing trying to be an ass, i'm genuinely curious if she is considered a cyborg because of her extensive enhancements is all, sorry if i came across like that.
Oh yes, definitely. Low-profile but fairly extensively.
Originally posted by Gods Son
so is plagueis also a cyborg? he also had a respirator lmao
Do you... not know the definition of cyborg? It sounds like you really, really don't.
You keep doing the incredulous laugh thing without realizing, yes, if someone has permanent robotic parts, they're a cyborg. If they actually need cybernetics to live, they certainly are!
Only a few cyborgs are completely enclosed/mostly machine types, but the others are most definitely cyborgs.
Hm, maybe splitting them into heavy cyborgs (Grievous/Vader/Irek types), and medium cyborgs (Malgus/Plagueis/Lumiya/Azlyn Rae etc. types) would do... there's also some cyborgs with only a single non-vital cybernetic feature, but those hardly seem worth going over.
Devastating the temple of Lehon. Hurling a pillar enchanted to ward off force powers. Instakilling people by wrecking their bodies as soon as his force wave hit them (which is by the way something that I fail to see often).
All nexus feats dope. The text clearly states that Bane had to gather nexus energy to topple the pillar on Lehon, the same energy on the planet also made trainee Bane faint like a *****
On the landing high above Kas’im stood beneath the massive arch of the Temple entrance, staring down at him."I will follow you wherever you run," he said. "Wherever you go I will eventually find you and kill you. Don’t live your life in fear, Bane. Better to end it now."
"I agree," Bane replied, hurling out the wave of Force energy he had been gathering during the Blademaster’s speech.
There was nothing subtle about Bane’s attack: the massive shock wave shook the very foundations of the great Rakatan Temple.
-Path of Dickstruction
Bane off nexus was only able to shatter crates and tents, his TK in DOE is pathetic he hurled a table, rubbed a guards organs and killed him, and sent guards flying into a wall. All of Bane's feats on Lehon, Korriban, and Dxun are among darkside nexuses, and none of that power belongs to him as his TK feats without an amp are laughably bad
Hero of Tython, Zannah, Anakin, Windu and Yoda would disagree with you.
None of those examples are relevant to Bane's lightnings power 👆. All it did was momentarily stop Zannah, if it was as 00ber as you Banetards let on it would've punched through her lightsaber and fried her. Which is ironic since you and Neph constantly put it on Sidious's tier, even though its only ever killed fodder.
Originally posted by carthage
All nexus feats dope. The text clearly states that Bane had to gather nexus energy to topple the pillar on Lehon, the same energy on the planet also made trainee Bane faint like a *****
Originally posted by carthage
Also lol @ bringing up Kun's need for a nexus for his gauntlets, there is no quote stating unequivocally that the temple boosted his blasts.
Originally posted by carthage
I asked for a quote where it stated that he relied on the nexus.
Originally posted by carthage
Again, if you can't provide a quote that stated that Yavin's ambient darkside energies were the [b]souce of his power, then I will just laugh at you hording quotes as usual[/B]
Originally posted by carthage No one disputed that the amulet amplified Kun's power, but this quote mentions nothing about a nexus.
Originally posted by carthage Nowhere does it state it needed a nexus
Originally posted by carthage My end summary: As usual you failed to provide a quote stating Yavin was the source of Kun's blasts
Originally posted by carthage Nowhere in any of the quotes mentioned anything [b]specifically stating Yavin was the course for Kun's power[/B]
And the text said nothing about gathering "nexus" energy. Not to mention the fact that the wave that brought down the temple would've been significantly weakened by the fact that Kas'im blocked and absorbed the strongest point of the wave.
Originally posted by carthage
Bane off nexus was only able to shatter crates and tents,
Originally posted by carthage
his TK in DOE is pathetic he hurled a table, rubbed a guards organs and killed him, and sent guards flying into a wall. All of Bane's feats on Lehon, Korriban, and Dxun are among darkside nexuses, and none of that power belongs to him as his TK feats without an amp are laughably bad
I'd also like to point out that none of his TK feats in DOE prove a limit for him. He never failed at something he attempted with TK. And again, this TK he utilized while drugged crushed half a dozen guards' internal organs to pulp, which is still something I have yet to see from the likes of Dooku or Maul.
Originally posted by carthage
None of those examples are relevant to Bane's lightnings power 👆.
Originally posted by carthage
All it did was momentarily stop Zannah, if it was as 00ber as you Banetards let on it would've punched through her lightsaber and fried her.
Originally posted by carthage
Which is ironic since you and Neph constantly put it on Sidious's tier, even though its only ever killed fodder.
Is this another one of your double standards Carthage?And the text said nothing about gathering "nexus" energy. Not to mention the fact that the wave that brought down the temple would've been significantly weakened by the fact that Kas'im blocked and absorbed the strongest point of the wave.
The debate I had with Ant was regarding Kun's destructive capacity with regards to the temple Nexus. It had nothing to do with whether or not the power originated from him it did, and there are multiple quotes to support that. This is not the case with Bane, as the text clearly states he was gathering energy. What double standard again, I already admitted that the nexus contributed to overpowering his blasts in that debate. Again try to learn some reading comprehension kiddo, Kun's blasts came from himself and were overpowered by the nexus, Bane gathered nexus energy and used them to topple the pillar. Bane's TK feats are not analogous to his showing on Lehon much like Kun's destructive power on Yavin is likely not representative of his power due to the nexus.
You mean in DOE where he was either having his power suppressed, or was drugged in an underground prison that he didn't want to bring down on himself or set off the explosives embedded in the walls? GG Carthage.
That still has nothing to do with the fact that his TK feats off nexus are inferior to his showings on Lehon and Dxun 👆. Derp. Bane's showings are inconsistent and pathetic, i,e breaking boxes, throwing a table into a wall, and breaking someone's spine. Those are all much inferior feats.
I'd also like to point out that none of his TK feats in DOE prove a limit for him. He never failed at something he attempted with TK. And again, this TK he utilized while drugged crushed half a dozen guards' internal organs to pulp, which is still something I have yet to see from the likes of Dooku or Maul.
There is no proof for your claim. Dooku has collapsed a massive crane, hurled boulders that weighed tons onto Tholme without strain, lifted obelisks that weighed tons, ragdolled Kenobi, and that's just a few. Bane has nothing to compare off nexus, accept it. Maul's feats are also superior.
Zannah still had to be very wary of Bane's lightning even while he was unarmed and she was armed.
She still absorbed it with her lightsaber, and that still doesn't prove it can fry her as its only killed fodder 👆
You mean Zannah, the person who instinctively shielded herself from the force storm on Ruusan, who also trained for twenty years to kill Bane?
That showing was never replicated and was an instance of her force potential not something she ever did again.
Bane's lightning was capable of disintegrating four people with a single one handed burst. The only Sith I've seen who can match or exceed the power of Bane's lightning are Sidious and Vitiate.
Who cares?
Shi'ido changelings: Belia Darzu
Considering the only two candidates we know are 'force sensitive pegged as a potential RoT apprentice to Venamis but never trained or giving a name,' and 'leader of all the Sith in the galaxy in her time and the last sith during the New Sith Wars strong enough to unite all of them,' I think Belia's a shoe-in.
Originally posted by Q99
For cyborgs, we've got Irek Ismaren, Grievous, Vader, and Malgus.
Malgus wasn't a cyborg...
Anyways, here's what I've got:
Human: Luke Skywalker
Sith: Valkorion / Vitiate
Yoda's Species: Isn't it obvious?
Muun: Darth Plagueis
Bith: Darth Venamis
Massassi: Malaphar the Savage
Rakata: Soa
Zabrak: Talzin
Zabrak (Natural Force Power): Darth Maul
Miraluka: Jerec
Chagrian: Darth Wyyrlok III
Iktotchi: Saesee Tiin
Kel Dor: Plo Koon
Nautolan: Kit Fisto
Mirialan: Luminara Unduli
Chiss: Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Chiss (Natural Force Power): Sev'rance Tann
Twi'lek: Darth Tenebrous' Master
Twi'lek (Known): Darth Gean
Togruta: Shaak Ti
Cathar: Sylvar
Dashade: Khem Val
Chistori: Desann
Selkath: Ortuno
Echani: Brianna
Fosh: Vergere
Yuuzhan Vong: Onimi
Kaleesh: Xalek
Draethos: Odan-Urr
Arkanian: Arca Jeth
Krevaaki: Vodo-Siosk Baas
Droid: IG-88
Human: Luke
Bith: Tenebrous
Sith: Vitate
Muun: Plagueis
Yoda species: Yoda
Miraluka: Jerec
Chagrian: Darth Wyyrlok III
Iktotchi: Cognus
Kel Dor: Plo Koon
Nautolan: Kit Fisto
Mirialan: Luminara Unduli
Twi'lek: Tenebrous Master>Gean>>>>Alema/Talon
Echani: Brianna
Fosh: Vergere
Yuuzhan Vong: Onimi
Rakata: Soa
Zabrak: Maul
Originally posted by DarthAnt66😄
The general majority of the people who say Talzin>Gethzerion (well, Emperordmb and WildBatha88* at least) never even read the book she was featured in. 😬
Gethzerion is an absolute beast, and one-shotted a post-ROTJ, pre-DE Luke Skywalker. She would be above Talzin, who Sidious didn't think much of off her homeworld.
*I'll let Bantha slide for proclaiming Revan as a god though.