Seriously? Did you see the movie?
Raphael tossed around a freight ship cargo container. Those things are at least a ton or more empty.
He also brought down an entire corridor/wall with a shoulder charge.
Donnie while sliding down a mountain slung Raph hard enough with one rotation to flip him into a humvee and destroy the entire side he hit.
Raph also busted through a van like it was paper.
The four of them held up the entirety of the broadcast tower above Sacks tower. Then after falling several hundred feet from the top of the tower to the ground, they landed and caught the remains of the tower above their heads.
He also used his sai(as a child) to rapidly carve a wooden portrait of himself in the span of 3 or so seconds.
And when they were fighting the Foot clan goons, casual hits were sending them flying.
When they got the adrenaline boost from April, Donnie, Mikey, and Leo easily busted out of containment cells specifically designed to hold them.
You can't see this movie and not realize the Turtles outclass Logan in every way except healing and having metal claws.
There's so much wrongness in this thread:
-Arrow didn't pierce the adamantium suit, Asian-Legolas fired an arrow into the suits optical slit, which wouldn't be made of adamantium.
-Logan didn't 'easily tear apart the suit'. He cut the head off with the heated sword and then later ripped off the breast plate as one piece which logically was structurally compromised when he cut the head off.
As it stands, Shredder has no way of damaging the suit with the weapons he has and the SS only needs one good hit to kill the Shredder with his heated adamantium blades. Logical winner is the Silver Samurai
Originally posted by Robtard
There's so much wrongness in this thread:-Arrow didn't pierce the adamantium suit, Asian-Legolas fired an arrow into the suits optical slit, which wouldn't be made of adamantium.
-Logan didn't 'easily tear apart the suit'. He cut the head off with the heated sword and then later ripped off the breast plate as one piece which logically was structurally compromised when he cut the head off.
As it stands, Shredder has no way of damaging the suit with the weapons he has and the SS only needs one good hit to kill the Shredder with his heated adamantium blades. Logical winner is the Silver Samurai
Great points, I think people were just making things up to suit their needs for their debate.
It actually seemed to hit a bit south of the slit. You can see when they zoom in.
And while Shredder can't put any lasting damage, he can knock Samurai around with ease considering how Wolverine was tussling with him. Also he's much faster and more skilled. He can dodge around until he takes SS' sword, then kill him with it. That's more logical imo.
It was into the optical slit.
Shredder can't do any damage whatsoever to the adamantium and while he can use his smaller size, speed and and skills to knock around the SS, he's still only one hit away from death. Any block he attempts, he loses weapons and possibly an arm. Banking on Shredder taking away a sword, then knowing how activate it before the SS gets some hits in is a poor bet.
Originally posted by KingD19
Shredder is a martial arts master and highly strategic. Logan figured out how to use that sword in like 5 seconds. To say he won't figure it out is kinda meh.
Logan figuring it out was part of the plot, remembering what he was told back in the 40's and using it against his opponent. Could the Shredder figure it out? Sure. Not a guarantee and it's not a guarantee he'd be able to get a sword away, activate it and use it before he's killed by a single blow.
Originally posted by KingD19
Shredder is a martial arts master and highly strategic. Logan figured out how to use that sword in like 5 seconds. To say he won't figure it out is kinda meh.
Yes with PIS he figured it out. Without it, I doubt it. And he had previous knowledge on this tactic. And how would Shredder be familiar with adamentium like Logan was?