Anakin Skywalker Vs Satele Shan(Lightsabers only)

Started by FreshestSlice3 pages

Because you're completely disregarding the part where she was disarmed and almost killed and then tried to blame it on the lightsaber?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I figured, considering there was a block of text below that sentence. 😉

😍

By the time he fought Satele? Hardly.

That's arguable though, both of them were incredibly powerful and for the most part Satele did well against him - until he took advantage of the huge week point her saberstaff presented - the hilt. Both of them seemed to be on the same level.

This is true. Does that mean we are to assume that Satele improved by the same scale factor as Malgus? Not really.

Well doesn't her becoming the Grandmaster of the order show that she did improve?

I would argue Malgus was.

I would argue that they were both not that far from their peaks. Though i'm curious as to what supports you.

When does he not do this?

True enough, but his anger is much more visible in his encounters with the good Count.

As a duelist? On what basis are you inferring this?

as an overall Jedi, force powers and Dueling skills included. certainly you're not suggesting Satele - in her prime, would not perform as well as Ventress did against, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luminara Unduli, Ahsoka Tano, Plo Koon, Kit Fisto and Grevious? if given the same circumstances.

Not unless you think Ven Zallow is a peer of Yoda.

I wasn't referring to Malgus dude, i was talking about Satele.


Satele did well against him - until he took advantage of the huge week point her saberstaff presented - the hilt. Both of them seemed to be on the same level.

1. Anakin could also exploit this, so I'm not sure what your objective is in pointing this out.

2. Malgus was pretty clearly winning, until Malcom's intervention.

Well doesn't her becoming the Grandmaster of the order show that she did improve?

No. 😐

Zym and Kenth were also Grandmasters. The title isn't given for sheer combat prowess--Besides, I never said that she didn't improve. I said that it shouldn't simply be assumed that she improved at the same rate as Malgus.

I would argue that they were both not that far from their peaks. Though i'm curious as to what supports you.

Malgus's performances against Leneer pre and post waifu depict a sizable power gap. Other than that, there's his feats as the False Emperor.

as an overall Jedi, force powers and Dueling skills included.

Okay, well this is a saber match.

certainly you're not suggesting Satele - in her prime, would not perform as well as Ventress did against, Obi-Wan Kenobi?

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm telling you to provide evidence suggesting she can.

I wasn't referring to Malgus dude, i was talking about Satele.

And Satele fared worse than Zallow in a duel with Malgus.

Satele was actually very impressive in Fatal Alliance.

I'll respond tomorrow or the day after NewGuy01. 😛

A strictly lightsaber duel.. Anakin easily.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because you're completely disregarding the part where she was disarmed and almost killed and then tried to blame it on the lightsaber?
Darth Maul has also suffered this problem? does that make him any less of a duelist?

Malgus even winning is actually questionable. Yes Satele was disarmed and she quickly got a hand up to hold the lightsaber, at first she looked like she was struggling and then she got both hands on the lightsaber and her expression changed, she was focused. And the lightsaber wasn't moving towards her at all, it looked more like a stalemate to me. Then take into account the massive power boost she was getting and how exactly was that a defeat?

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Malgus even winning is actually questionable. Yes Satele was disarmed and she quickly got a hand up to hold the lightsaber, at first she looked like she was struggling and then she got both hands on the lightsaber and her expression changed, she was focused. And the lightsaber wasn't moving towards her at all, it looked more like a stalemate to me. Then take into account the massive power boost she was getting and how exactly was that a defeat?

Didn't Satele write in her journal that Malcom saved her life?

Skywalker-san takes this.

Satele writes in her journal that she is outright scared of Malgus and states outright Malcom saved her life.

Well doesn't her becoming the Grandmaster of the order show that she did improve?

Not at all.

I maintain that she was very impressive in Fatal Alliance as the Grand Master.

"To the Sith, violence was an art form. To Master Satele, it seemed like life itself."-Eldon Ax, source: Fatal Alliance

And at that time Satele admitted to not being the warrior she used to be.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And at that time Satele admitted to not being the warrior she used to be.

Right, I get people love lowballing, it's a trait in all of us. But this is Satele as a Jedi Knight, before being the youngest gradmaster to that point and ignoring all of her solid feats in Fatal Alliance.

But it's beyond saving at this point unless there's new material for her to be in which seems unlikely.

Well its her at her prime, so we should take the version of her that she states was her prime. Just makes sense imo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well its her at her prime, so we should take the version of her that she states was her prime. Just makes sense imo.

Yup but then every thread ends with, "she got owned on Alderaan, gg debate over."

Originally posted by AncientPower
Satele writes in her journal that she is outright scared of Malgus and states outright Malcom saved her life.

Beg your pardon but so what? Anyone with a brain should be scared of a powerful foe. If they aren't scared, then they're an idiot who thinks they're invincible and will get killed by being cocky and careless. Fear keeps people alive.

Also, of course she stated her saved her life. She's humble. I'd hardly expect her to claim she didn't need any help.