Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's true.But it should only bother you if you're invested in immaterial and insignificant stories: like those of Revan, Bane, Vitiate, or Nihilus. And Ragnos, especially Ragnos.
They preserved the story of the great Darth Sidious, so all is well.
Darth Sidious inst all that great. Sure he is powerful but everything was laid out before him on a silver platter by Bane and Plageuis and all the Banite sith inbetween. It wasn't HIS plan, he was merely the one who finally finished it
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Darth Sidious inst all that great. Sure he is powerful but everything was laid out before him on a silver platter by Bane and Plageuis and all the Banite sith inbetween. It wasn't HIS plan, he was merely the one who finally finished it
Well to be fair, he was the only one to fully eradicate the republic, hunt the Jedi to near extinction and establish a galactic empire that lasted for years. so there's that.
Up until the end of TPM he was riding on the coattails of his master and all of his predecessors and even after that he was only carrying out someone else's plan. Still Kudos for manipulating the jedi even though, judging by how blind the jedi of that era seemed to be, I feel like I could have done that and I have a shitty pokerface. I probably would start giggling to myself the first time I tried convincing a jedi to go on a suicide mission, and the worst part about it is, I would still get away with it.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Up until the end of TPM he was riding on the coattails of his master and all of his predecessors and even after that he was only carrying out someone else's plan.
The_Tempest
Ooh, do tell.
Bane didn't do shit and there's absolutely no evidence that anyone in between him and Plagueis accomplished anything. Plagueis definitely deserves credit for financing a lot of Palpatine's schemes, but per Darth Maul: Lockdown, Plagueis "knew only the broadest generalities about Darth Sidious's ongoing work to destabilize the Outer Rim planets and orchestrate the Galactic Civil War."
Based on all available evidence, to say that Palpatine was responsible for only 90% the Banite victory would be too conservative.
Anyway, I'm going to bed so you and Emperordmb should feel free to make your case/s. I'll return on the morrow to crush them. excellent
I'd like to point out that I am not saying that Sidious had a small part to play in the Grand Plan, merely that he was not its only architect. Bane set up the order, and for a thousand years 30 Dark Lords gathered wealth knowledge and resources to pass to the next generation as they destabilized the Republic more and more. To suggest that Sith like Bane, Tenebrous, and Plagueis should only be footnotes in the Sith Vitcory is to undervalue their contributions greatly.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Bane didn't do shit and there's absolutely no evidence that anyone in between him and Plagueis accomplished anything.
"You cant die yet, Zannah thought bitterly, chewing on her lip. There's so much more you have to teach me!
Her Master's power was still far greater than her own. She had the potential to surpass Bane-he had told her so himself-but right now he still possessed a strength she could only aspire to. There were secrets he had not yet shared with her, keys to unlocking even greater power than she now possessed. If he died, that knowledge was lost. It was possible she might one day succeed in discovering it on her own; with Bane as her Master, success was assured.
But what he still had to teach her went far beyond her ability to harness the energies of the dark side. For the past decade she had been focused only on learning to control her own power. Over that same time, her Master had begun to assemble the pieces that would one day allow the Sith to rise up and rule the galaxy.
He'd created a vast network of spies and informants, but Zannah had no idea as to its true extent, or even how to contact them. He had put into motion a hundred long-range plans to slowly build their strength while weakening the Republic. Yet she was only just now beginning to understand the scope and complexity of his political machinations.
Bane was a visionary, able to see far into the future. He understood how to exploit the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of the Republic. He knew how to draw the eyes of the Jedi away from the dark side, while at the same time leading them down the first steps of the long road that would end in their complete annihilation. He could manipulate people, organizations, and governments, planting seeds that would lay dormant for years-even decades-before they burst forth.
If he died now, everything he had put into place over the last ten years died with him. Zannah would have to start at the beginning. She would have to find and train an apprentice, even as she was still learning the full extent of her own abilities. She would be stumbling blindly forward, beset by enemies on all sides. It was almost impossible to imagine she wouldn't make a mistake that would lead to her downfall... and the extinction of the Sith.
She couldn't allow that to happen. For the sake of their order, she had to keep him alive. And though Darovit might not have the knowledge and power to heal her Master, she knew someone who did. Someone who had saved his life once before."
The word I believe everyone is looking for is Kablam!