Anakin Skywalker vs Satele Shan (Force Only)

Started by DarthAnt664 pages

I sense much unnecessary hatred in you. 😬

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
But the movies are the highest forms of canon....

So let me get this straight, the work of the creator of Star Wars - the movies, the highest freaking form of Canon are "Simply not eligible"...

The creator of SW also showed us the clear difference in the performance of Anakin and Obi-Wan against a more powerful foe- Count Dooku.

Not just in the live action movies, but also in TCW. Which also showed Anakin taking Force TK attacks from Dooku much better than Kenobi was ever able to.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I sense much unnecessary hatred in you. 😬

Focus on the thread DarthAnt66, not on trying to troll me.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The creator of SW also showed us the clear difference in the performance of Anakin and Obi-Wan against a more powerful foe- Count Dooku.

Not just in the live action movies, but also in TCW. Which also showed Anakin taking Force TK attacks from Dooku much better than Kenobi was ever able to.

Yeah, i'm not arguing that. I'm saying that despite all of his lack of talent with the force, Obi-Wan was still able to match Anakin's power with his own - though whether that's attributed to them going all out or not is unknown to me. I'm in no way trying to lowball Anakin by the way, i'm just saying that, if they were going all out in that fight. It would explain the reason why Kenobi was able to stalemate Anakin. But again, this my opinion on this and I've already conceded to DarthAnt66.

I do think Fated has a point and that its clear that Anakin is not that much greater than Obi-Wan in TK even regularly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I do think Fated has a point and that its clear that Anakin is not that much greater than Obi-Wan in TK even regularly.

No.

Oooooooor yeeeeeeeessssss???

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Yeah, i'm not arguing that. I'm saying that despite all of his lack of talent with the force, Obi-Wan was still able to match Anakin's power with his own - though whether that's attributed to them going all out or not is unknown to me. I'm in no way trying to lowball Anakin by the way, i'm just saying that, if they were going all out in that fight. It would explain the reason why Kenobi was able to stalemate Anakin. But again, this my opinion on this and I've already conceded to DarthAnt66.

Because Maul and Dooku were able to catch Kenobi off guard with TK doesn't mean that Kenobi has weak TK. In fact he is a legitimate powerhouse in that regard.

At 1:10 Kenobi casually breaks huge metal structure:
YouTube video

Kenobi stalemating Anakin in TK does not prove that Anakin had weak TK, only that they had equal skill of the application. Being the most powerful doesn't mean that you can overpower everyone else. Dooku is not Yoda's equal, yet, Yoda never ragdolled Dooku. Mace is not Sidious' equal, yet, Sidious did not ragdoll him. Yoda and Sidious can't have equal power, either of them was more powerful by some margin, yet, during their final struggle they were perfectly even. Luke is nowhere near as powerful as Abeloth, yet, she could never ragdoll him.

Anakin would eventually overpower Kenobi as he has much more Force reserves but Force explosion separated them.

Remember when Obi wan used a powerful Force Repulse to blow Durge apart? that was an impressive display of TK power

Originally posted by Arhael
Because Maul and Dooku were able to catch Kenobi off guard with TK doesn't mean that Kenobi has weak TK. In fact he is a legitimate powerhouse in that regard.

Kenobi stalemating Anakin in TK does not prove that Anakin had weak TK, only that they had equal skill of the application. Being the most powerful doesn't mean that you can overpower everyone else. Dooku is not Yoda's equal, yet, Yoda never ragdolled Dooku. Mace is not Sidious' equal, yet, Sidious did not ragdoll him. Yoda and Sidious can't have equal power, either of them was more powerful by some margin, yet, during their final struggle they were perfectly even. Luke is nowhere near as powerful as Abeloth, yet, she could never ragdoll him.

Anakin would eventually overpower Kenobi as he has much more Force reserves but Force explosion separated them.

Like i said, i'm not arguing that either of them is stronger than the other, I'm just saying that they Stalemated. When i said. "Kenobi's lack of talent with the force" i was saying it because that it is the consensus many users here on KMC have taken to. Um, unless i missed something, i don't think I even said or implied Anakin had a weak TK.

Also thanks for that Video, I forgot about that feat of his. 👆

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Remember when Obi wan used a powerful Force Repulse to blow Durge apart? that was an impressive display of TK power

Wow, i completely forgot about that, Thanks for that Bantha. 👆

Satele.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oooooooor yeeeeeeeessssss???

Or no. I doubt Kenobi could break the railings on this

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wtshit is this? 😬

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Or no. I doubt Kenobi could break the railings on this

Well he snapped the metal support for the crate in RotS so if he had a minute of full concentration like Anakin I'm sure he probably could.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well he snapped the metal support for the crate in RotS so if he had a minute of full concentration like Anakin I'm sure he probably could.

It wasn't anywhere near a minute and it's not comparable at all. One's strong enough to hold up a building under the pressure of an ocean. The other's holding a crate. 😬

I'm pretty sure it was over a minute tbh. And Anakin only broke ONE beam of ONE support strut and then it chain reactioned.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm pretty sure it was over a minute tbh. And Anakin only broke ONE beam of ONE support strut and then it chain reactioned.

Just watched it, it's not, and since it was the one in the middle, it's also the strongest. It's beyond anything Kenobi has ever down.

They're all made of the same material and all just as thick by the looks of things. So nah. It's hardly beyond Kenobi. At least not by much.

Still above anything Satele has shown. U mad?

Nah, because it's not. Satele could crush hex droids into balls with a gesture, which were stronger than durasteel, or easily blow through blast doors. Out of her prime.

Wait... when did she say she was out of her prime? Could someone get me the quote and name the source?