Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this is what happens when we go into a region with no other goal or plan other than "shock and awe" and "bomb em' back to the stoneage".
now we have to deal with the wild cavemen we helped create. *shrug*
Lol, Obama has a good plan "degrade and ultimately destroy them"
Originally posted by Lestov16
His plan is good. Thanks for finally giving him the respect he deserves 👆
It was a good speech, now we need action.
He needs to gather international support for this coalition, So far UK, Germany and Turkey have said no to a air campaign. Having Turkey back out because they don't trust this is a huge blow to this campaign because there huge NATO ally with military bases to help support the air operation.
It's hilarious that every time I hear a complaint about Obama it's actually something either the GOP is currently responsible for or something Bush started in the past.
ex. It's hilarious the GOP are attacking Obama for veteran aid reform when McConnell went out of his way to veto Obama's bill to do such. Republicans are roaches.
Originally posted by Lestov16
What is political? The pussification of other nations?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yup they al pussies, Saudi King just talks trash but takes no action either.
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USA is situated far away from Middle East. Strategically, its easy and safer for USA to project power in regions where it is not directly affected as consequence from war.
However, ground realities of countries - situated in Middle East or in regions where wars are taking place - are vastly different from that of USA. These nations are directly affected by destabilization and aftermath of conflicts around them, they won't be excited about cooperating with USA to fight ISIS which is a by-product of devastating conflicts in Iraq and Syria.
Wars are costly matters, slow down development processes and can destabilize regions.
If any nation from Middle East will join an international coalition against ISIS, it will be on its own accord and calculated move.
Also, it isn't easy to crush a well-funded insurgency and prevalent mindset in a region. Unfortunately, more people will die and this will fuel more hatred in ground zero. Fighting fire with fire seldom yields positive results.
isis isn't a war... its karma... i love america.. but when you go ****ing with groups of ppl over hundreds of years its going to come back on you... yeah you can go bomb them... but if they are willing to die anyway... this is a war you cannot win... they will keep coming back.. because of the history of pain inflicted on different races of ppl. innocent ppl. will pay for other ppl. actions