Originally posted by juggerman
It wasn't just a recation tho. It screamed in pain. SCREAMED. It wasn't like a quick yip like a minor thing. You don't scream out like that unless there is some damage done.
I remember the noises he made. And the MUTO's clearly hurt him. However any damage seems to have been temporary. You can't ignore the fact that she was dropping her entire body weight onto her spikes as she jumped on him.
So either she simply didn't pierce his skin(which would show amazing durability), or his healing factor is fast enough to recover massive wounds in an extremely short amount of time.
That's true. I was never arguing Godzilla could beat Clark. Just pointing out Godzilla is either really tough or has a really high end HF to not be injured in the slightest after his fight with the MUTO's, despite being stabbed, tossed around, clawed, bitten, and all that other stuff.
He was physically unharmed by the end of that fight. And leaving unharmed not even 24 hours later after a short nap(and this of course after swimming all over the world chasing the MUTO's down from location to location and fighting both of them at the same time)
Originally posted by KingD19
I remember the noises he made. And the MUTO's clearly hurt him. However any damage seems to have been temporary. You can't ignore the fact that she was dropping her entire body weight onto her spikes as she jumped on him.So either she simply didn't pierce his skin(which would show amazing durability), or his healing factor is fast enough to recover massive wounds in an extremely short amount of time.
I agree that Zilla is a monster to have survived all that but it still shows that less than a nuke can harm it. Concussive force to it's back(probably the most protected area) isn't the same as more directed force to a less durable area.
Originally posted by Lestov16Film canon directly states he was only hit by a blast in the kilotons. Sure RL Castle Bravo was megatons, but obviously GZ isn't real life so if they say he was only hit by kilotons, that's the film canon and you can't change it just because IRL events differ.
No feat to show he can harm Godzilla? Dude flew straight through the World Engine which was terraforming the entire planet with it's gravity waves. Kryptonians were tossing everything from locomotives to satellites with the same ease as tossing a baseball. Godzilla may be big, but Supes is way faster, and there's zilch way Godzilla's going to tag him.
Hell, Supes' HV should be enough to at the very least scar GZ. Godzilla was getting owned by 2 MUTOs. Supes held his own against 2 kryptonians.
Zod fried an entire skyscraper in half in about 5 seconds and he wasn't even trying. Also Supes has busted mountains, again uninjured. GZ nuke breath won't do shit to Supes even if it does touch him, which, since Supes is too fast, it definitely won't. All Supes has to do is drill a hole in the back of GZ's head and game over.
Ahh the oh so famous out of context Kiliton nuke argument lol. So your referring to the Navy Captain stating weapons of that age were in the kilotons, even though he had know knowledge GZ was hit with castle Bravo which was clearly shown in the beginning of the movie, and then confirmed in the official prequel comic to the movie?
Flimsy argument is really flimsy.
Same world engine that failed to flatten the buildings around it? That same weak a$$ Wolrd Engine? 🙂
Same Heat Vision that failed to cut through the building Zod was blasting at the end? The most the HV vision did was cut through steel. Big deal. Nuke fire of Nukes reach degrees of sun temperatures. GZ tanked that heat with no damage at all and spews Nuke fire from his body 🙂
Drill a hole in GZ? Through Durability far greater than Supes ever punched through? Even if you argue the eyes, I can point to the Official prequel comic to the movie by Legendary and the writer of the movie.
As seen 100% official to the movie canon as per the writer, producers, and Legendary.
As seen GZ had his eyes open while hit with 14 Mega Tons of force with no eye ruptures or damage. Also consistent with the movie as no armor piercing missile or shell penetrated GZ.
Your logic is not so supportive now when context and feats are shown.
Originally posted by NemeBro
What would happen if Superman flies through Godzilla's eyeball and into its brain?You have to take into account that Superman is pound for pound probably more powerful than Godzilla, much faster, and is capable of easily exploiting weak points like that that the MUTOs could not.
Pound for pound stronger? How so? his damage output with Zod is pathetic to the damage output of GZ fight with Female Muto. Not seeing this.
Also I doubt he can just fly into the brain as I never seen ANY Superman version or MOS himself show this kinda of thinking or move in a battle. There is also the fact GZ with his eyes open tanked 15 Megatons and nuke fire with no damage to said eyes shown.
Im just not seeing Superman from MOS hitting with this much force.
http://s9.photobucket.com/user/KingGojira2014/media/GZvsAsteroid1_zps9afc6f14.png.html?sort=4&o=87
http://s9.photobucket.com/user/KingGojira2014/media/GZvsAsteroid2_zps01816b7f.png.html?sort=4&o=88
GZ in this did not even showed any signs of damage at ground zero of that impact. he simply stands there, and jumps in the ocean shortly afterward. I see no proof MOS can hit with the same force of a 15 Megaton Nuke that leaves over a mile wide crater in the earth.
the feats for MOS currently are just not there. Its pure fan fantasy that he should beat GZ 2014 as he is right now.
Originally posted by Lestov16
At no point in those scans does it say the yield of the blast. The film says it is kilotons, so that is the canon. Stopping saying he got hit with megatons when he didn't. The IRL CB blast isn't the same as the one in GZ. Just accept that.
Wow, your argument is that Castle Bravo is not the same blast based on no evidence other than the out of context statement of a Navy Captain who never knew GZ was specifically hit by Castle Bravo? He made instead a accurate statement of how Nukes back then were Kilotons, but again never was told or had a way to known GZ was hit specifically with Castle Bravo?
Your whole flimsy argument is based on that statement even though it was stated as Castle Bravo here.
Then shown here in the beginning of the movie with the various footage of Castle Bravo (and another nuke test) here.
Also in the movie the scientist stated the date and location of the Castle Bravo test when discussing Godzilla.... Yet your argument is based on a Navy Captain who was never told specifically it was Castle Bravo that hit GZ and not a normal Kiloton Nuke of that day that he could easily been thinking of when saying random crap on a subject he had no details about, unlike the scientist who was there?
That is seriously your argument 😱 I think all that needs to be said has been there 🙂
Do you comprehend what I and the film said? The CB detonation in GZ is not the same as the IRL one, and as stated by film canon was only kiloton, not megaton. Unless now you are going to claim the IRL CB detonation was to kill a giant radioactive dinosaur 😆
Edit LOL you are seriously claiming the characters were written to not know WTF they are talking about? Just stop
Originally posted by Lestov16
Do you comprehend what I and the film said? The CB detonation in GZ is not the same as the IRL one, and as stated by film canon was only kiloton, not megaton. Unless now you are going to claim the IRL CB detonation was to kill a giant radioactive dinosaur 😆Edit LOL you are seriously claiming the characters were written to not know WTF they are talking about? Just stop
So again you ignore the fact the movie Navy Captain said Kiloton which is true on Nukes of that age, but was never told it was CB nuke was the one used on GZ?
😂
Flimsy argument is still really flimsy. I have a better idea, how about you explain to me how Superman can harm GZ with his punches? After all they were stated only punches. Hardest punch IRL is way below car busting. There is no statement these punches are in the building busting or higher range 🙂
^ Thats how flimsy your argument is 😉
Why not? There is so many movies where a character is misinformed and gets in trouble for it. Happens ALL THE TIME in comedy's, drama, action, horror, ect movies.
Really guy? Your argument now is characters in movies are never misinformed 🙂
I know readers will see who has the flimsy argument here. Glad to debate this with ya.
Originally posted by Psychotron
I can't believe there are people who think Godzilla has a chance against MoS. 2 MUTOs owned it, a skyscraper falling on it almost killed it. Plus, there's no way he could ever hit someone as small and as fast as Superman.Anyway, stops at Zod.
Still waiting for proof of any kind MoS can harm Godzilla.
Can he hit harder than a kiloton Nuke? In the movie itself, it was shown and stated GZ was hit by Nukes of the time by both Russia and America. None of the various nukes worked.
In the official comic by the company, producers, and writer of the movie we get more feats.
MoS Supes can Hit Harder than a 15 Megaton Nuke?
Hit harder than the Asteroid that changed earth?
This is 2014 Godzilla feats of Durability as per Legendary Stidios, the Producers of the movie, and original screen writer of the movie.
Mutos are beings who never put a scratch on Godzilla, and at best beat on a tired Godzilla who chased them for days.
Also doubt Superman is walking away from the Nuke Breath which is pretty fast as it had like zero travel time in the movie frame rates.
Again, the CB blast in GZ14 canon is not the same as the real life one. In the screenshot you posted, they directly say it was only a kiloton blast, not megaton. Not sure why you aren't comprehending that. Also, GZ didn't tank the kinetic energy of Permian impact to the face. He survived because he burrowed underground and avoided the planetary changes that killed off many other species. You are aware the the kinetic energy of the meteor itself isn't what caused most Permian extinctions, right?
