UK could be no more

Started by Time Immemorial2 pages

Its a good thing its not happening.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its a good thing its not happening.

I mean we won't know properly until about 6:30 AM UK time but polls suggest the No vote is ahead by a slight margin.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I mean we won't know properly until about 6:30 AM UK time but polls suggest the No vote is ahead by a slight margin.

Yup by like 6 votes I think.

Still too early to call, but unless the Yes camp wins just about every one of the remaining counts (by 10-20% in every case) then Scotland will stay in the UK.

In the end, not as close as predicted- the early yougov poll pretty much got it right; 55% to 45% percent in favour of saying in the UK. Looks like the undecided crowd pretty much went for staying in on the day.

Too much uncertainty with the Yes future, whereas the No camp had promised further devolution and local autonomy in Scotland if they voted No.

This is the best result for everyone in the UK and Europe.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Too much uncertainty with the Yes future, whereas the No camp had promised further devolution and local autonomy in Scotland if they voted No.

This is the best result for everyone in the UK and Europe.

Very much so.

Safe to say I am not One_Angry_Scot this time round.

More of a One_Happy_Scot.

Glad the right choice was made.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Too much uncertainty with the Yes future, whereas the No camp had promised further devolution and local autonomy in Scotland if they voted No.

This is the best result for everyone in the UK and Europe.

Except maybe the Scottish, but they can always leave the UK next time around.

Originally posted by Bentley
Except maybe the Scottish, but they can always leave the UK next time around.

That'll be ages till another referendum is even spoken of.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS SCOTLAND!

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
That'll be ages till another referendum is even spoken of.

With a 40%+ of yes? One can only hope.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
[B]Unfortunately I don't see Scotland being economically stable to survive on it's own. If it keeps the £ it is still governed by England setting interest rates. And if it goes into the euro it risks falling into a quagmire and who knows what could happen.

Absolutely! I could never see them sustaining the country financially.

The Scots have always viewed England with suspicion, centuries even before James l. Even tho the results have kept the 'alliance' together, it's my personal opinion that this 'independence' issue will never completely go away. The Scots are a very proud nation, and supremely patriotic to their land and roots. And whom can blame them; they have a very impressive history, and are unique for their stamina and resistance in times of diversity.


In the 8th century (793), the Vikings, or plunderers from Norway, (initially), were attracted by the wealth of the Monasterries and the easy treasure to be found within.

Silver, gold and precious manuscripts were sources of great booty. Islands like Iona were frequent targets. In 806, the entire Iona community was murdered and plundered. The Monks of St. Ninian's Island, Shetland, were also attacked, and the monks, pre-warned, quickly buried all that was of value. The Monks hidden hoard, (from the Vikings), of 8th century gold and silver wasn't discovered until 1958. It is a dazzling display of gold and silver relics in remarkably good condition that is as impressive today, as it must have been to the treasure hungry sea raiders in the 8th , 9th and 10th centuries.

** {Author's note: The Viking or Norse involvement in Scotland, Ireland and England (Danes), is a very large topic all by itself. Its scope is huge and an interseting and a topic on which I have written about extensively and previously published. I hope to go into their, generally unknown or misunderstood culture, which had enormous influence on ALL of Britain as well as most of Europe some time down the road. For now, only significant events concerning Vikings (and there are many) raids turned settling will be discussed.} **

By the end of the 9th century the Vikings came to Scotland to raid and settle. It is curious that the Vikings settled so quickly in Scotland and Northern and east Ireland, and slower in England. Certainly resistance was just as fierce in Scotland and Ireland as it was in England. In general none of the native Britains or English were able in any significant way, to stop the Northmen whatsoever.

They appeared unbeatable, even when outnumbered. However, the Scots seemed to have something in common with the Viking and after a while intermarriages, both common and noble, with established clans took place in north Scotland (Caithness and Sutherland) and extensively throughout the Western Isles of Scotland, called the Inner and Outer Hebrides.

To this day you can find Scottish Clans with direct Viking (Norse) descent. Clan Gunn in the North, Clan MacDonald of the Isles and Clan MacLeod (pronounced Mac-loud), in the west mainland and Isles, along with other Clans (such as MacQueen and MacAulay) are of Norse-Scot origin. They even spoke both Norwegian and Gaelic for several centuries in the Western Isles. All Clans of this unique heritage have a reputation as skilled fighters who seemed to live to fight. These same Clans were some of the earliest to use the longer swords and employ archers in their ranks.

http://www.scottish-history.com/origins3.shtml

The Scots and the Brits are completely united tho in at least one area; and that is in their scornful hatred of the bedroom tax. mhm...