The Avengers -Vs- Superman

Originally posted by carver9
This. Sad thing is, these rules are not applied to other Superman like characters, only him. It seems like it has gotten worse though in the past couple of months since the hero chat incident. Seems like people are debating more and more on powerset vs actually picking up a comic and looking at how that person fight 'in character'.

It's obvious Kris doesn't like Hulk. Please don't feed into it.

Stop it.

Your Hulk is optimal here at KMC and is not a representation of the one featured in the comics.

There are necessary limitations placed on the abilities of characters to propel the plot. We all know this. The point of the rules unless otherwise specified is to remove these restrictions and allow characters to utilize their powers to the best of their ability.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Stop it.

Your Hulk is optimal here at KMC and is not a representation of the one featured in the comics.

There are necessary limitations placed on the abilities of characters to propel the plot. We all know this. The point of the rules unless otherwise specified is to remove these restrictions and allow characters to utilize their powers to the best of their ability.

I keep asking you, show me his limitation. Convince me. I can provide proof of the opposite. I can show you proof that Hulk starts off at high Herald. Can you show me something proving that he doesn't. Bring out Lord of Prime.

I need to see this proof.

I knew taking carter off ignore was going to be worth it.

Honestly, this versus is close, but the Avengers have the right line up to get the win, by taking down enough Supermen to start double then triple teaming the rest. Its a domino effect.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I need to see this proof.

I knew taking carter off ignore was going to be worth it.

I'm challenging LOB...if he declines my challenge, then me and you can discuss this. He continuously brings this up so I want him to hack up his claims with scans.

Originally posted by carver9
I keep asking you, show me his limitation. Convince me. I can provide proof of the opposite. I can show you proof that Hulk starts off at high Herald. Can you show me something proving that he doesn't. Bring out Lord of Prime.

I gave you the proof already.

Take Superman's average performance against the following characters.

1.Mon-El
2.Captain Marvel
3.Orion
4.Lobo

Compare that to the Hulk's performance against High Heralds at default and you can clearly see Superman is stronger.

Show me your proof.

Wait what are you guys talking about now?

What do superman's showings against characters who are not high herald matter`?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I gave you the proof already.

Take Superman's average performance against the following characters.

1.Mon-El
2.Captain Marvel
3.Orion
4.Lobo

Compare that to the Hulk's performance against High Heralds at default and you can clearly see Superman is stronger.

Show me your proof.

Wait a minute...I'm confused. I thought we were debating Hulk's default strength? Also...what performances of Hulk against Heralds are you talking about?

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute...I'm confused. I thought we were debating Hulk's default strength? Also...what performances of Hulk against Heralds are you talking about?

Show me your proof of Hulk's default strength.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]Show me your proof of Hulk's default strength. [/B]

I sure will but are you going to counter my scans? If not, it's a waste of time.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]Show me your proof of Hulk's default strength. [/B]

Stop trolling. You're the one who claimed Hulk's performances at default level were worse than Superman's. So it's YOUR job to provide either scans to prove your point, or at least name the Hulk fights you're referring to.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Stop trolling. You're the one who claimed Hulk's performances at default level were worse than Superman's. So it's YOUR job to provide either scans to prove your point, or at least name the Hulk fights you're referring to.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Stop trolling. You're the one who claimed Hulk's performances at default level were worse than Superman's. So it's YOUR job to provide either scans to prove your point, or at least name the Hulk fights you're referring to.

You can keep claiming I'm trolling.

It will result in NOTHING!

You're feeding Carver back his cheerleading love is admirable though.

Originally posted by carver9
I sure will but are you going to counter my scans? If not, it's a waste of time.

This is an embarassment to Carver Prime.

You can take the Wonder Man fight in Simon's own series.

The Avengers/Defenders war Thor vs Hulk fight.

The Hulk annual Fight against Thor.

The Gladiator fight.

Savage Hulk's first fight Against Black Bolt.

There are many more to mention.

The display of strength before Banner amps is lower than Superman's.

This has become hilarious.

Edit:
More hilarious.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
This is an embarassment to Carver Prime.

You can take the Wonder Man fight in Simon's own series.

The Avengers/Defenders war Thor vs Hulk fight.

The Hulk annual Fight against Thor.

The Gladiator fight.

Savage Hulk's first fight Against Black Bolt.

There are many more to mention.

The display of strength before Banner amps is lower than Superman's.

I'm talking about current Hulk for one. 10 to 15 yrs of his showings during WWH and after. It seems like he hasn't been powered down drastically after WWH and he is still being called World Breaker but you can convince me otherwise. Anyone would tell you Hulk has received a power up which is what I am asking you. You bringing up 20+ yrs of old showings is nice and dandy but it has nothing to do with what we have today.

Wait a minute. So THOR giving Hulk a fight means he doesn't start off at high Herald levels? THOR of all people. Can I bring up Superman fights against Captain Marvel and Black Adam? How about current Supes who got killed by an amped Batman that doesn't have Thor fts? Thor is one of the top Heralds in comics. A Herald that has showings of hanging with Skyfathers and damaging Celestials. Yes, he will give Hulk a fight. What in the hell man.

Huh? Wonderman fight? The same Wonderman who got trashed by Grey Hulk with a single punch? Which fight are you talking about? Let me guess...about 20 yrs ago huh?

Lol...Hulk thrashed Gladiator. Don't know why you are referencing Orion anyways since Orion has dropped Superman in one panel and then stalemated him afterwards in a physical matchup.

Savage Hulk first fight against BB? Thirty plus yrs ago right? Let me guess, are you talking about the fight where BB used his voice? Doesn't matter since current Hulk cap starts much higher than his previous incarnations. It's good to keep up with Hulk though. I guess that's why current Hulk is being called one of the most powerful beings in history?

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Hulk/Screenshot_2014-06-20-12-04-51_zpse77f2a00.png.html

Also, are you implying that Superman would walk through BB? Would you like for me to name some showings of Superman fights against Heralds proving that he doesn't operate at high Herald level strength (even though we all know he does)? Let's not pretend like Superman crush Heralds consistently, because he doesn't.

What else do you have that proves Hulk within the 10 to 15 plus yrs doesn't start off with high Herald level strength? Bring out Lord Prime.

No, he'll "win" this the way he and others usually do, by posting till you get tired of responding then claiming a victory...

Let me go. This ship towers over mountains. The main objective was to get the ship to a planet that was about to collide with Earth. The planet at the minimum was moon distance. When the ship hit the other earth, to give a more accurate perception of it, it was the size of a continent. Well, they needed Hulk to get the ship to the other planet, and this is base Hulk at that.

Well, he punched this ship all the way to the planet that was headed to earth. Punched it. And then had enough leg power to jump all the way to that planet as well. One proof of his base strength.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319504/Avengers_v524.NOW-024.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319505/Avengers_v524.NOW-025.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319506/Avengers_v524.NOW-026.jpg.html

I fear for Brooklyn if their Lord be this deficient. Clearly Hulk at "base level" is stronger than any high herald. He's always been depicted as such.

Originally posted by janus77
I fear for Brooklyn if their Lord be this deficient. Clearly Hulk at "base level" is stronger than any high herald. He's always been depicted as such.

You are a clan of ONE!

Be very careful how you address me!