Thanos vs. V&V Despero

Started by krisblaze11 pages
Originally posted by Insane Titan
from what I remember it was given the gaurdians by Kang for the upcoming encounter with Adam Magus . Then Starlord was using against Magus and Thanos in Imperative:Ignition in which he stated he thought it only had enough juice for one more blast etc. Since then it's been used several times.

Yes, I remember it being used against Magus.

I'm pretty sure I remember looking right at it and seeing that it was cracked though.

Originally posted by Bentley
That's speculation and I'm not sure I'd agree with it.

What do you mean it's speculation. He clearly took more heat from the cube than he did from Odin. He is in a far more damaged state. It's really not that difficult to see, if you even read GOTG 18.

Originally posted by Stoic
What do you mean it's speculation. He clearly took more heat from the cube than he did from Odin. He is in a far more damaged state. It's really not that difficult to see, if you even read GOTG 18.

Thanos during the Thanos Imperative took a lot of heat from a lot of lesser sources.

Damage to appearance isn't always the best judge, because, like I said, Drax's gun isn't more powerful than Omega, Odin or the cracked cosmic cube.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Thanos during the Thanos Imperative took a lot of heat from a lot of lesser sources.

Damage to appearance isn't always the best judge, because, like I said, Drax's gun isn't more powerful than Omega, Odin or the cracked cosmic cube.

He was also in a weakened state during that arc. That's hardly any excuse to disregard the amount of damage that he took later on when he comes out of his newly awakened, and weakened state. You read it, so you should know this. Drax also has detrimental effects on Thanos.

Originally posted by Stoic
He was also in a weakened state during that arc. That's hardly any excuse to disregard the amount of damage that he took later on when he comes out of his newly awakened, and weakened state. You read it, so you should know this. Drax also has detrimental effects on Thanos.

He seemed to have recovered when Drax shot him.

Who's disregarding anything? I'm telling you that the amount of damage done to Thanos' clothing isn't necessarily representative of the damage he's received, and the evidence of that is that lesser attacks have done more damage to his clothing...

The Drax aura wasn't in effect during GOTG.

In GOTG 18, it's more than just his clothing that's messed up. Thanos is actually hurt, and hurt bad. This does not keep him down. He looks far worse than when he goes up against Odin IMO. At the time when Drax shoots him he is still weak. It took him a while to get to 100%. And like i said, Drax has detrimental effects on Thanos.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, I remember it being used against Magus.

I'm pretty sure I remember looking right at it and seeing that it was cracked though.

tbh I think we just it's appearance and had no real beating on the functioning of the cube.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He seemed to have recovered when Drax shot him.

Who's disregarding anything? I'm telling you that the amount of damage done to Thanos' clothing isn't necessarily representative of the damage he's received, and the evidence of that is that lesser attacks have done more damage to his clothing...

The Drax aura wasn't in effect during GOTG.

it was stated around the time Drax shot him he was still getting stronger/powerful etc indictating he wasn't a full power.

To be he seemed to be fully regenerated after he returned from the anti matter bomb and death rejected him.

Okay, you two are right then. Thanos was probably not back to full power when Drax shot him.

Maybe Thanos' physical appearance is a somewhat consistent indicator of how much damage he's suffered. I can't think of many incidents where his clothing have actually ripped, other than the cube and tyrant.

Originally posted by Stoic
In GOTG 18, it's more than just his clothing that's messed up. Thanos is actually hurt, and hurt bad. This does not keep him down. He looks far worse than when he goes up against Odin IMO. At the time when Drax shoots him he is still weak. It took him a while to get to 100%. And like i said, Drax has detrimental effects on Thanos.

But...Despero normally doesnt normally wear clothes...😇

Originally posted by riv6672
But...Despero normally doesnt normally wear clothes...😇

It was more than his armor that was destroyed though. Thanos was hurt. This goes beyond several high powered characters that have assaulted Thanos. isn't the durability of a characters body, a clear testament of their physical strength? if so Thanos is above Despero. I mean can you imagine a sentient tomato lifting a bus without bursting?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, you two are right then. Thanos was probably not back to full power when Drax shot him.

Maybe Thanos' physical appearance is a somewhat consistent indicator of how much damage he's suffered. I can't think of many incidents where his clothing have actually ripped, other than the cube and tyrant.

Didn't Odin shred his armor as well?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
tbh I think we just it's appearance and had no real beating on the functioning of the cube.

The whole Cosmic Cube showing in the Guardians worked around the Cube being limited in its scope. Maybe Bendis will retcon that, but if we go by its past showings, the Cube is more than aesthetically broken.

Originally posted by Stoic
It was more than his armor that was destroyed though. Thanos was hurt. This goes beyond several high powered characters that have assaulted Thanos. isn't the durability of a characters body, a clear testament of their physical strength? if so Thanos is above Despero. I mean can you imagine a sentient tomato lifting a bus without bursting?

My bad Stoic, you're making great points, while i was just making a dumb joke.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, you two are right then. Thanos was probably not back to full power when Drax shot him.

Maybe Thanos' physical appearance is a somewhat consistent indicator of how much damage he's suffered. I can't think of many incidents where his clothing have actually ripped, other than the cube and tyrant.

from the top of my head , there was the time when he was inside the black hole and in the prelude the Infinty revelations when he was stood on top of a pile of heroes he had killed in the supposed near future.

I will try and think of more.

Originally posted by riv6672
My bad Stoic, you're making great points, while i was just making a dumb joke.

Honestly though. Did you see Hourman go down from a scratch that Wolverine with his HF would shrug off? Seriously, those characters that got embarrassed by Despero during V&V were fighting so poorly, you would think that they forgot that they actually had powers. the writers did everything but had them fly blindfolded into his fists. i mean where was the super breath, mixed with the heat vision? What happened to the lasso, and all of the other exotic powers? it was WWiii Black Adam all over again. not trying to downplay it, but it was poorly written from where I stood when reading it. i wasn't convinced then, and I'm still not today.

^It was bad, but WW3 was a whole nother level of bad.

****ing female Dr.Light flying in to melee him, wwwww

Originally posted by Bentley
The whole Cosmic Cube showing in the Guardians worked around the Cube being limited in its scope. Maybe Bendis will retcon that, but if we go by its past showings, the Cube is more than aesthetically broken.
limited to what though?

Iirc it was given to the gaurdians to achieve what the Celestials were trying to achieve/stop.

Originally posted by Stoic
Honestly though. Did you see Hourman go down from a scratch that Wolverine with his HF would shrug off? Seriously, those characters that got embarrassed by Despero during V&V were fighting so poorly, you would think that they forgot that they actually had powers. the writers did everything but had them fly blindfolded into his fists. i mean where was the super breath, mixed with the heat vision? What happened to the lasso, and all of the other exotic powers? it was WWiii Black Adam all over again. not trying to downplay it, but it was poorly written from where I stood when reading it. i wasn't convinced then, and I'm still not today.

This is s whole different subject. If we didnt use things that (we think) were poorly written, this forum'd produce about 3 viable threads a week.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
limited to what though?

Iirc it was given to the gaurdians to achieve what the Celestials were trying to achieve/stop.

Limited in the sense that it wasn't complete.

Seriously, there's no phucking way you could've read it and reached the conclusion that they were given a full cosmic cube.