Darth Nox vs Mace Windu

All out

(No crazy Vaapad action like in ROTS)

Who wins?

Mace with high difficulty

Without Vaapad? Nox.

It's not no Vaapad at all

Without Vaapad to channel or amp Mace, he can't compete with Nox.

Windu stomps

Hm, would he be able to draw off multiple ghosts like he would multiple living sith?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Without Vaapad? Nox.

Originally posted by Trocity
It's not no Vaapad at all

This is true. Just not like in ROTS.

Nox gets to use the ghosts like he did against Thanaton.

I know, but that would be the only thing that gives Windu the edge. Nox is kind of OP while being powered by five Force Ghosts and an enhanced body.

Well whats the point of matching ROTS Vaapad Windu against another sith?

It can work with less Force power based Sith, such as Bane or Vader, but not Nox. He'd obviously overpower Nox eventually.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It can work with less Force power based Sith, such as Bane or Vader, but not Nox. He'd obviously overpower Nox eventually.

He defeated Sidious in a saber duel though.

That's because the amp he got from Sidious is insane. He won't get that much power from most Dark Side users. Even Nox.

And the opponent will be easier to defeat.

Not necessarily. I have my doubts that Mace could fight Bane, Vader, Emperor's Wrath, Kun, Hord, etc. simply because their skill with the saber isn't too shabby either.

If he can perform like he did against Sidious, he can take them.

And Mace's power with the Force isn't too shabby either.

Besides, why is the elements of Mace's style considered some unfair advantage or amplification? Might as well say Nox is banned from using his bound spirits.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
And Mace's power with the Force isn't too shabby either.

Besides, why is the elements of Mace's style considered some unfair advantage or amplification? Might as well say Nox is banned from using his bound spirits.

He has vaapad, but not like the one against Sidious. After all, he performed quite different against other sith.

He used a different Vaapad against Sidious? Weird, I've never heard of anything like that.

No, there is nothing different about it. Sidious's inner darkness was greater than that of Mace's other opponents, and Mace submerged himself more deeply into the fight. Because of this, naturally Mace was fighting above his usual tempo--but it isn't some unique or separate ability that he doesn't use in all of his fights.

By not allowing him the mental aspects of Vaapad, he might as well be restricted from using the style--As it is inherently a core aspect of Mace's fighting, in all of his battles.