Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Don't be mad because a black man took a stand for himself and his people, quit suppressing the truth.
And back to being Supra, oh well. You're the only one focused on Golden's skin color, like it matters. What he said was clownish regardless of skin tone.
"Hey everyone, he's black so he can't be disparaging to other black people!!!"
While the family groups being more norm is true it wasn't a it suddenly vanished situation and the people who were very family orientated then still stayed that way it was a slow shift in generations over some switch. And even it's a problem that can be fixed within the community where as Jim crow was forced on them and the society that was enforced it was much worst towards them.
Sure some people were big successes despite jim crow but overcoming obstacles doesn't mean it was better. Even if affirmative action gives people the edge when they don't deserve it it is a fact that throughout US history many black men and women have deserved more then they got due to the society at the time and the Jim Crow laws. More blacks who are qualified are able to succeed to day then they could have ever dreamed of back then.
The current problems are problems that had existed back then and before that we allowed to fester grow to their current state, but even with all our problems now is a damn golden age compared to the Jim crow era especially in the south. Focusing on only the good that happened despite Jim crow doesn't change that it was a horrible time for people who didn't deserve it and ignores how even with all of the current problems in black american society we are much better off. And more importantly we can make the needed changes without a boot on our throat forcing us to stay.
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
While the family groups being more norm is true it wasn't a it suddenly vanished situation and the people who were very family orientated then still stayed that way it was a slow shift in generations over some switch. And even it's a problem that can be fixed within the community where as Jim crow was forced on them and the society that was enforced it was much worst towards them.Sure some people were big successes despite jim crow but overcoming obstacles doesn't mean it was better. Even if affirmative action gives people the edge when they don't deserve it it is a fact that throughout US history many black men and women have deserved more then they got due to the society at the time and the Jim Crow laws. More blacks who are qualified are able to succeed to day then they could have ever dreamed of back then.
The current problems are problems that had existed back then and before that we allowed to fester grow to their current state, but even with all our problems now is a damn golden age compared to the Jim crow era especially in the south. Focusing on only the good that happened despite Jim crow doesn't change that it was a horrible time for people who didn't deserve it and ignores how even with all of the current problems in black american society we are much better off. And more importantly we can make the needed changes without a boot on our throat forcing us to stay.
I respect what you say, thank you for adding in your thoughts.
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
While the family groups being more norm is true it wasn't a it suddenly vanished situation and the people who were very family orientated then still stayed that way it was a slow shift in generations over some switch. And even it's a problem that can be fixed within the community where as Jim crow was forced on them and the society that was enforced it was much worst towards them.Sure some people were big successes despite jim crow but overcoming obstacles doesn't mean it was better. Even if affirmative action gives people the edge when they don't deserve it it is a fact that throughout US history many black men and women have deserved more then they got due to the society at the time and the Jim Crow laws. More blacks who are qualified are able to succeed to day then they could have ever dreamed of back then.
The current problems are problems that had existed back then and before that we allowed to fester grow to their current state, but even with all our problems now is a damn golden age compared to the Jim crow era especially in the south. Focusing on only the good that happened despite Jim crow doesn't change that it was a horrible time for people who didn't deserve it and ignores how even with all of the current problems in black american society we are much better off. And more importantly we can make the needed changes without a boot on our throat forcing us to stay.
Of course it doesn't help that many of the campaigners today really are rabble-rousing militants.
I had a professor at FSU who specialized in black women studies. She played the class a tape recorded interview she did with writer Gloria Naylor where their main point was that blacks will never regain the momentum they had in the 60s because of two-way complacence.
Originally posted by Robtard
And back to being Supra, oh well. You're the only one focused on Golden's skin color, like it matters. What he said was clownish regardless of skin tone."Hey everyone, he's black so he can't be disparaging to other black people!!!"
You don't even know what to say other then talk about his skin color.
Didn't you know Obama was black bro?
You did not even understand nor comprehend what he said cause you were too focused on his skin color.
Did you grow up liberal or just get brainwashed into that backwards thinking?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The real problem with the state of fate of Black America, if I can be allowed to use that awful, misleading term, is that because black people achieved maybe 75% of their goals they were satisfied enough that they lost momentum after the CRA and to the rest of America it seemed like they'd gotten all their goals and so anyone who agitates now must just be a rabble rouser or "militant."Of course it doesn't help that many of the campaigners today really are rabble-rousing militants.
I had a professor at FSU who specialized in black women studies. She played the class a tape recorded interview she did with writer Gloria Naylor where their main point was that blacks will never regain the momentum they had in the 60s because of two-way complacence.
I think the issue that the civil rights movement has, just like women's liberation, is that in many ways the most obvious forms of oppression have been eliminated. People nowadays, living in their bubbles, can easily just dismiss the struggles that oppressed minorities face. When the laws were discriminatory it was possible to point at them and to say, "look, this is different for blacks and whites, this is different for men and women", and it was hard to deny that, now, it's the rest of society, our culture, that is still messed up, and it's extremely hard to even convince people that there's anything wrong.
Just listened to this.
Golden is a dumbass and clearly doesn't truly comprehend the entire race issue of America and why hip hop culture is bad. Black people were only united in segregation out of fear. Now that segregation has ended, we are free to live our lives as an equal people to whites and any other race, as our human rights dictate. Hip hop culture just distracts a lot of blacks from realizing their full range of opportunities now that they have equal rights.
That's not to even mention that hip hop culture is just the latest generation gap in a long national history of generation gaps. And that's not including the extremely important factor that this is the information age where the theme of free spiritness is flowing greater than ever now that access to everybody is far easier.
Saying that segregation was better and the Jim Crow laws where white men could kill a black man for pure sadistic pleasure and opportunities for blacks were zilch besides being white people's entertainment was a more beneficial time of black history is one of the most retarded and misinformed things I have ever heard.
TI, why in the phuck did you post this trash and do you seriously phucking agree? Because as a black man I can tell you Golden is very VERY phucking wrong (although I do agree that Sharpton and such could cover the negative affects of hip-hop culture and such a bit more frequently, although watching his show on MSNBC he often does, which shows again how misinformed Golden is).
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You don't even know what to say other then talk about his skin color.Didn't you know Obama was black bro?
You did not even understand nor comprehend what he said cause you were too focused on his skin color.
Did you grow up liberal or just get brainwashed into that backwards thinking?
You're the one who brought up his skin color as being an all important factor. I specifically said his skin color doesn't matter after you did.
Stop playing nonsense games like a trolling fool, Supra.
Proof:
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So you are suggesting this black man with his own opinion is a slave to a white man and dictates his viewpoints.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're doing silly a strawman trying to avoid my actual point again. I couldn't care less what skin-color Golden has, I am focusing on what he said and what he said is ridiculous regardless of the skin-color of the person saying it.